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Title: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Joe Timney on October 12, 2011, 07:00:21 AM
As we close out the season at Maxton, we have a limited supply of event gas. We want to use up all the fuel as interstate transportation of fuel is NOT in our plans. If you have special needs, you need to bring your own sealed container.
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on October 12, 2011, 08:11:39 AM
Hi, Joe -

My first event at Maxton.

What octanes are available on site?
 
I get my racing gas locally from a station that dispenses with a standard pump, therefore my container is not "sealed".  Does the ECTA have a method for confirming gas on site, and if so, what is that procedure?

Joe, do you think there is enough event gas on site to complete the event?

Thanks

Chris Conrad
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Joe Timney on October 12, 2011, 08:31:53 AM
Just talked to Mike Wiles, the fuel guy about the fuel supply at the track:
50 gallons of 100 unleaded
20/25 gallons of 111
50 gallons of 118
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: JoeRider677 on October 12, 2011, 08:53:31 AM
Quite a quandry....... bring our own to be sure we have "Gas" and not use up what's on hand or take a risk og missing a "Gas" record........ hmmm
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on October 12, 2011, 12:06:31 PM
Sounds like I'll need to bring my own to be on the safe side.

Does the ECTA use the same type of dielectric constant test that the SCTA does?
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: wolbrink471 on October 12, 2011, 12:33:12 PM
MM

In the past they allowed a sealed container to be opened and stored in the gas truck for the weekend. There was a slight 'corking' fee, but you could run on G records.

I don't think there are facilities to 'test' opened containers.

Mark
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Cajun Kid on October 12, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Most Racing Gas  comes in "sealed"  5 gallon pales/cans.

Around here we can get VP and Sunoco in sealed 5 gallon cans.

Bring the sealed can to the Fuel Trailer with your race car/bike,,,

Let Mike or Shane inspect your tank, open the sealed can and fill your tank, close and seal your tank and you are OK for Gas class now.

Oh yeah,,, be nice slip them a few $  for the process.

See you all at the Track

Charles
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: javajoe79 on October 12, 2011, 08:45:50 PM
 We are still sealed up with plenty of gas from Bonneville. I can only assume that will be ok???  Can we run with a tank seal from Bonneville?
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 13, 2011, 06:32:47 AM
I'd vote for letting you through impound with a Bonneville seal on the tank since I have seen the seals many times -- and know what to look for to make sure that you haven't sealed it yourself to make it look like one from out there.  But -- since I am a bike guy/inspector you'd best be sure to get an opinion from a car racer/inspector.
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Stan Back on October 13, 2011, 08:06:05 AM
Paying the officials?  Haven't tried that in SCTA.  Probably another reason for my lack of success the last few years.  Maybe if I'd done that I could add a couple more lines under this.  You know, print my biography with every reply.  Hi mom!  Love you kids!
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 13, 2011, 08:26:48 AM
Oh, Stan Back, ye of little faith.  We suggest it's a courtesy to offer a tip to the fuel vendors because by bringing our own containers to the event and having them by requirement open and pour the fuel into the tank -- we're not only getting so work done by them without compensation, but we're also not buying any fuel from them.  We want their presence at the track so that we can have easy access to a quality race fuel(s) - and if they don't make their necessary profit we won't get them for next time.  That's all -- it's not a "pay for favors" thing.

Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Dan Stokes on October 13, 2011, 10:03:41 AM
I've sealed many a tank at Bonneville so I'd likely recognize a good seal if I see one.  No idea if Joe and Keith want me to take this task but I'm willing and probably as qualified as anyone.  The bright fuscia nail polish is MINE - from the Dan Warner collection.

Dan
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: javajoe79 on October 13, 2011, 10:09:37 AM
 I believe it was you who sealed it last Dan. Kix's truck.
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Dan Stokes on October 13, 2011, 01:47:46 PM
10-4.  It'll have my initials on it - in crayola.  They won't let me have anything sharp after I leave "The Home".  Or maybe it was pen.....

Dan
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Cajun Kid on October 13, 2011, 06:03:55 PM
ECTA folks,,, many of you may not know the famous or is it infamous Stan Back,,

Don't let his sarcasm about us the ECTA or our policies and procedures get to you,,, he is really a nice guy and is a RACER and has an awesome Roadster... his on line sarcasm has to be the result of to many people peeing in his corn flakes when he was younger...

It's fun to joke along with him, and I know some times he is a bit over the top,,, just remember it's not his fault,,, it's just pee on the brain !!!

LOL...

All in jest,,,,

Stan Back,,, next year when we start running in Ohio,, that will be closer to you,,

Come to Ohio and see how much fun a standing mile with traction can be !!!


Charles
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Stan Back on October 13, 2011, 06:31:49 PM
Never had a traction problem -- only have a horsepower problem.

Wilmington sounds like a nice place to visit even if you're not racing.

Stan
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 13, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
Would one of youse guys please refresh my mind -- will there be a high-octane unleaded at the final Maxton event?  We use MUL-A at Bville -- 103.5 octane, no lead, 3% oxygen.  What's the closest we'll find if we go there?  The bike is tuned for the MUL-A -- don't want to suffer too much degradation of performance by running Bunker C instead.
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Dan Stokes on October 14, 2011, 08:32:52 AM
Jon - Joe T posted up what's going to be there - 2rd. or 4 th. post in this thread.  It doesn't mention O2 content but you could probably call the fuel guys.  I guess Joe or Keith would have their number (as we have YOURS!).

Dan
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 14, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
Thanks, Dan.  I figured that someone would look for the post and give me a reference so I didn't have to go back through 'em all.  The response says there'll be 50 gallons of 100 no lead.

Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: fredvance on October 14, 2011, 12:22:08 PM
Let's see, you were at how many meets this year and you didn't bring any mul gas home with you?? Good planning Jon.  :evil: Of course I have never done that!! :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 14, 2011, 12:35:14 PM
Unh, wrong-o, Fred.  I've got a five gallon can -- but since we'll only use a gallon, if that, for the entire weekend, and since I want to have fresh gas for the dyno in another month or two -- I'd like to leave that one factory-sealed for now.  See -- I sorta (but only sorta) did think in advance.
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: Joe Timney on October 14, 2011, 01:48:41 PM
May I offer this...get to the track with a five gallon fuel jug and have the gas guy fill your tank and jug and seal them...you can uncork the jug later in front of the gas guy or one of the officials and fill you tank.
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: fredvance on October 14, 2011, 02:10:19 PM
Jon the ERC cans seal very well. I have used gas that was over a year old, no problems. As a matter of fact, as soon as I open a can of VP Q16 I put it in an ERC can. wHEN i WENT TO THE DYNO THIS YEAR THE q16 was a year old, no change. Sorry about yelling back there, too lazy to go back and fix it. :-D
Title: Re: Gas Supply for final event at Maxton
Post by: DanMay1776 on October 25, 2011, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on October 13, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
Would one of youse guys please refresh my mind -- will there be a high-octane unleaded at the final Maxton event?  We use MUL-A at Bville -- 103.5 octane, no lead, 3% oxygen.  What's the closest we'll find if we go there?  The bike is tuned for the MUL-A -- don't want to suffer too much degradation of performance by running Bunker C instead.

You can find the specifications on the Rockett Fuel here:
http://www.rockettbrand.com/productspecs/specs.html (http://www.rockettbrand.com/productspecs/specs.html)

I have a local station that sells the 100 Octane Rockett, so I am bringing an extra 5 gallons just in case...

/Daniel