Watching the start that was very clean I think the pit lane may be a different challange as the wider bodies could be a bit blind coming out of their pits.
The Chevy powered cars are all having electrical problems.
I couldn't find any online coverage after I read this in the PM but caught NASCAR AND F1 on justin.tv last night. Even the F1 guys had to stop the racer from TOO MUCH RAIN :-D
The race was on ABC, 9:30 AM PDT. No qualifying show on NBC Sports(old Versus channel).
Chevys didn't do too bad, 7 out of top 10 spots at the finish according to Wind Tunnel.
DW
They were talking early in the show about the Chevy's having a electrical/charging problem. Don't work well with electric activated clutches. Bet that gets changed.
Quote from: dw230 on March 26, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
The race was on ABC, 9:30 AM PDT. No qualifying show on NBC Sports(old Versus channel).
Chevys didn't do too bad, 7 out of top 10 spots at the finish according to Wind Tunnel.
DW
I meant coverage online, I do not have television. I could have watched it live on Justin.tv if I had known it was even on!
Indycar and F1 reruns on F1 Stars channel on JustinTV NOW.
For Wayno :wink:
I can't figure this POS out. :x Wayno
Wayno, are you going to Elmo in May???
Quote from: Elmo Rodge on March 26, 2012, 05:39:44 PM
I can't figure this POS out. :x Wayno
Wayno, I will PM you my number and can walk you through it.
We may never see Wayno again. Between Hulu and Justin.tv he will be glued to his computer 24/7! Nice chatting this AM! Glad you got it all working :cheers:
Yep. Got it going in my own clumsy way. :roll: Thanx Trent. Had the Australian Gran Prix on in the background while doing other stuff. Sure is easier on my race budget than satellite TV. :-D Wayno
I agree!
Glen, back to the first post. I REALLY like the looks of the new Indycars. It was funny listening to the Euro F1 snobs chat about them during the race.
I agree Trent, I like the appearance on the track but I'm not so sure I'd like to be working on them. It looks to me like it may be more difficult than in the past to get to a lot of things. Tooooo much bodywork.
Pete
Quote from: Tman on March 27, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
I agree!
Glen, back to the first post. I REALLY like the looks of the new Indycars. It was funny listening to the Euro F1 snobs chat about them during the race.
I like 'em, too. I didn't think I'd be too crazy about 'em, but they're not bad at all. A lot better than the current crop of F1 cars with their gargoyles, crenelated turrets and flying buttresses....or whatever other architectural nightmares they tack onto the bodies. I also like the way the side/rear pods otta prevent a lotta wheel-wheel contact and keep Dario Franchitti from gettin airborne when he runs over someone's rear tire again.
I CAN NOT believe how ugly the new F1 cars are, you hit the nail on the head Ray!
Quote from: RayTheRat on March 27, 2012, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Tman on March 27, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
I agree!
Glen, back to the first post. I REALLY like the looks of the new Indycars. It was funny listening to the Euro F1 snobs chat about them during the race.
I like 'em, too. I didn't think I'd be too crazy about 'em, but they're not bad at all. A lot better than the current crop of F1 cars with their gargoyles, crenelated turrets and flying buttresses....or whatever other architectural nightmares they tack onto the bodies. I also like the way the side/rear pods otta prevent a lotta wheel-wheel contact and keep Dario Franchitti from gettin airborne when he runs over someone's rear tire again.
F1 2012
(http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2012/02/xlarge_2780b71422423d1c6b83c2817997b178.jpg)
F1 1978
(http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/marioandretti_lotus-cosworth_jarama_1978.jpg)
Indycar 2012
(http://h12.abload.de/img/848931-2012-indycar-pruu69.jpg)
Didn't they always say the form follows function? Bazillions of dollars of engineers working with CFD and wind tunnels leads to this.
F1 restraints have lead to this design. Unrestricted you would have a wing the size of New York that folded to nothing on the straights.
The current 18,000 rpm limitation (limitation!!) prevents them from going to the 22,000 rpm of the past, that would be much higher now.
Jimmy Johnson was in trouble for a minor disagreement over the C pillar. These guys are pushing the rules every time they run.
If you missed the F1 race this last weekend you missed a real show. Rain sure makes for fun racing.
I don't think open-wheel racing cars ever exceeded the beauty of this era.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
What I don't like in both series is the arbitrated limited use of some devices, as I understand it. Press(?) to pass. Modify your wing in turns 2 and 6 if you're one lap out of the pits. Turn on the motor, but only over here and here. Either have them or don't.
OK Neil,
Now the dust up starts! And, I'm SURE someone will disagree. However, this sums it up for me.
I found this on auto racing memories and want to give them credit for the photo.
Skip Pipes
Dean, that isn't even the final version of the 012 Indy car that ended up with cleaner bodywork in front of the rear wheels
I watched the last 4 minutes of the 79 French grand Prix today, Villenuve bumping tires and throwing passes that had his eyballs stuck to the visor from late decelleration. Amazing.
Quote from: Skip Pipes on March 27, 2012, 05:09:02 PM
OK Neil,
Now the dust up starts! And, I'm SURE someone will disagree. However, this sums it up for me.
I found this on auto racing memories and want to give them credit for the photo.
Skip Pipes
Great transitional time, looks like 63ish? Mickey Thompson ran a weird car with 12" tires around that time. HRM had a great story on all the tires sizes being tried. From the old 18's to 15,16 and his little roller skate tires.
How about this car for Indy?
If any of you guys ever get to Indianapolis DON"T miss the Speedway Museum. It'll blow your mind!
Pete
Quote from: Peter Jack on March 27, 2012, 06:45:29 PM
If any of you guys ever get to Indianapolis DON"T miss the Speedway Museum. It'll blow your mind!
Pete
The Rudi Caracciola trophy case is unbelevable, virtually every trophy he ever won in both Europe and the Americas and they are beautys.
Quote from: Skip Pipes on March 27, 2012, 05:09:02 PM
OK Neil,
Now the dust up starts! And, I'm SURE someone will disagree. However, this sums it up for me.
I found this on auto racing memories and want to give them credit for the photo.
Skip Pipes
Well, as the old lady said when she kissed the cow..."Everybody to their own taste." :-D
The era of the GP cars that I posted a picture of ( I took this at the 1962 German GP at the Nurburgring) seem to me to have an unparalled aesthetic beauty of form that stands alone.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Haha, Thanks Neil, now that was funny! :cheers:
Consider yourself lucky you participate in the most open form of racing on the planet.
NASCAR has restrictor plates and templates, F1 has batteries and motors and wings that open oh my.
It all comes down to numbers. F1 is massively popular, but spent years where the only pass took place in the pits.
Spectators don't want to see a parade. When the rules end up so that a parade happens, then push-to-pass comes to play.
Quote from: manta22 on March 27, 2012, 04:02:30 PM
I don't think open-wheel racing cars ever exceeded the beauty of this era.
Quote from: manta22 on March 27, 2012, 07:57:09 PM
The era of the GP cars that I posted a picture of ( I took this at the 1962 German GP at the Nurburgring) seem to me to have an unparalled aesthetic beauty of form that stands alone.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Can I get an "Amen?"
The last open wheel series I paid any attention to was Formula 5000. I'll have to dig it up, but somewhere I've got a picture of Mark Donohue screaming down the Moraine Sweep toward turn 5 at Road America in the AMC powered Lola. But even by that time, open wheel cars were becoming less elegant.
Neil, with me, you're preaching to the converted. :cheers: