Well we have been building on this thing for over a year and decided to post a build thread so y'all could see what we got and where we are going. I have learned quite alot for this forum and thank all of you for contributing to my education. I have always dreamed of having/building some sort of race car and particapating in said activity but poor dicisions as a youth and life in greneral kept me pointing in the wrong direction.
After a couple of attempts at marriage :roll: and 10 yrs. in a rock band+a day job my two true loves came together. Amy and LSR. As we have no children we have the time to travel around and experiance life and the this great country.With that being said, on one weekend about 6yrs ago I started looking the internet for something to do or somewhere to go and I came across the ECTA at Maxton. As I was interested in Landspeed racing since I was a kid I suggested to Amy that we go and check it out.
Amy is from Buffalo,NY, so showing her around my home state of NC was a good thing. So off to Maxton we go. I think it took me about 3 nano seconds to decide that this is something I wanted/needed to take part in. Although I didn't realize it at the time Amy got the bug as well. We spent a saturday at the monster mile and when I convinced Amy that it was time to head home I soon realize that she was quite mad. She didn't want to leave! I have created a monster and a race partner, thats cool.
We got a rule book,joined the ECTA and it was on. We started our learning curve running her stock "Little Red Kia", and thats right SHE is the driver. My time will come.
The Kia got killed by a Silverado and the "real" race car build would begin...
Here is what we started with, '91 Camaro Rs street thing that some guy ran in a local club of some sort.
Frank, this one's LONG OVERDUE.
Thanks - I'm looking forward to this!
Chris
Chris I figuered you seen one camaro build you seem em all. so this is a condensed build to get us up to date. :-D
Frank, glad you finally started this thread!
Quote from: Captthundarr on May 25, 2013, 08:30:17 AM
Chris I figuered you seen one camaro build you seem em all.
Frank, this is LSR -
You talk as if your were building a Studebaker. :-D
Thanks for starting the thread Frank. Cant wait to read it. As Chris said, this is LSR not drag racing where Camaros are a dime a dozen lol
Myself and my dad have always called Camaros, girl cars. And in this case it rocks since you wife drives it!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
Glad to have been of help with parts, has the starter made it yet?
Quote from: Tman on May 25, 2013, 06:06:45 PM
Myself and my dad have always called Camaros, girl cars. And in this case it rocks since you wife drives it!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
Glad to have been of help with parts, has the starter made it yet?
NO starter yet, dang it. Amy says it aint yor average chic car. :-D
Just a little reasoning for the name. Amy is a school teacher with her masters in reading education. She prefers to teach the little ones K thru 5th. Shame some of them thar smarts won't rub off on me. :-P
Clean it out and take it apart.
New suspension. Stock strutts with 1.5" lowered springsfront. UMI torque arm and trailing links. Tubular no stamped steel .
Frank and Amy,
Glad you FINALLY started this build diary! :-D
Over the years, it's been really fun watching you guys stepping it up and having fun in the process.
From the KIA at Maxton (if I remember correctly 100-105 range) to this Camaro in Wilmington at 137.
Amy's doing a GREAT job driving and your doing a GREAT job tuning. Now comes more HP ad higher speeds and you guys WILL get there.
Like you've told me several times, if you need help from me I'm only 2 1/2 hrs away. :cheers:
Gregg
Thanks for the offer Gregg. Ya, the Kia was an experiment in putting areo on a brick see'in as how there was nothing I could do to bump the HP except a cold air kit I put together. There are no "High po" parts for a kia spectra. Top speed was 116.xx with a gracious tail wind. :-D
I found this neat lttle cross trans mount cross member that will accomodate a couple different transmissions and incoporates a drive shaft safety hoop and the front mount for the adjustable torque arm. Amy likes red. :-D
Quote from: Captthundarr on May 26, 2013, 06:54:29 AM
I found this neat lttle cross trans mount cross member that will accomodate a couple different transmissions and incoporates a drive shaft safety hoop and the front mount for the adjustable torque arm. Amy likes red. :-D
that's a neat piece.
franey
back in the garage.
what we had.
The Camaro is a BIG improvement over the Kia!
Went through the rear end and installed new axles, bearings, studs and c-clip eliminators. It has 7 5/8" ring gear and 3.08 ratio.not concerned with the strenght yet as we aint hitting it with a bunch horsepower. When we start getting up there in HP we will install a "metric" 9".
Keep up the good work :cheers:
SInce T-tops are a pain in the arse for these type of cars with having to install hold down tabs or straps and installing a cage in the "vast expanse" of the interior is no fun, the roof had to go. Finding a coupe roof was not as easy as I thought. As it would turn out, I must have been living right, as a junk yard not 5 min. from the house had one with my name on it.
While laying out the roll cage base design I installed subframe connectors. These are fully welded and tied into the trans mount subframe stubs. We also wanted to get the "legs" of the cage as close to the rockers as possible. I was not happy with the idea trying to bend plate steel to the convoluted shape of the rocker side and floor then welding it to the thin floor sheet metal. To that end Inoyched the inne wall of the rockers along with the floor to the subframe connectors. I then welded a section of 1.5 x 3.5 x .120 wall tubing to the rocker, floor and subframe connector. I did this front and rear for the 4 main legs.
More cage mount stuff.
Cage stuff...
The rear down bars and cross bars mount to a 2"x4"x.120 wall that runs the width of the rear and welded to the subframe. where the bars are connected is directly over the subframe.
and some more cage stuff. Thanks to most everyone on this forum, this is where I got most of the ideas, and Joe Timney for letting me bounce these ideas off of him.
Fuel tank stuff, kits that fit are great. This one was great..
The rest of it
This project severs a couple of purposes
1. learn the fine art of landspeed racing
2. Get Amy to her personal goal.
3. Do the above as inexpensively as possible while maintaining a high level of safety and reliability.
As far as inexpensive goes, the engine in this beast is a barter piece. My "son" needed some help swapping the chassis on his 72 chevy short bed pick-up. The engine in it seemed fresh and the "new" chassis had an engine in it he wanted to keep soooo, we swapped my drive way and teaching abilities for the "old" engine. I only made a few improvements to the engine to give it a little more grunt. After doing a little research on the thing I found that it is a create replacement 260hp made in mexico, yep mexico.
When I was in high school the 70 Nova that I bought for 125 bucks ( in '89 ) had a Hecho en Mexico 350 in it as well. Too funny. Sure wish I had that Nova or the 75 still lol . LOve the build so far, thanks for sharing with us.
Thanks Frankie, We are going to see just what we can get out of this little burito before it pops its' top. I'll report on this years updates in some later posts.
Frank.
Last year we ran the little burito with some minor improvements, the flex plate was major poo, needed a SFI unit anyway. Added a torker II intake and a 650 Holley, MSD distributer and 6aL box and a set of long tube headers. I knew the engine ran well before we got it and I was in a hurry as April was coming on fast and we were determined to make the first race at the new venue. Amy did great and the car did well, 137.66 in the mile. The car had overheating issues, I would get those sorted out this year.
Its a good thing you found those cracks before it came apart.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
No kidding Neil, I've seen cracked flex plates before but this one had four total. :-o
Frank.
Hi Frank
That is why Magnafluxing is a good thing to do, to catch that cracked stuff before it blows up on you !!!
Don
Good read Frank! Talk about the condensed version... WOW! Looking forward to following this one!
Thanks Junkie, I did'nt post during the build as I thought it was a bit mundane, Gen3 camaro with a nothing to hoot about small block. The years I spent reading and learning on this forum made the build , to date, quite straight forward. The real challenge starts this year. We have a 5 year plan to get Amy to her goal of 200mph in the mile. She wants to be the fastest elimentary school teacher in the east. Last year was about getting her use to a car that aint got no A/C,radio, Pow'r winders, reclining bucket seats ect. The new environment was a 20 deg Kirkey containment seat, full cage, ratchet shifter, all of the safety gear and proceedures. This year the goal is to polish her skills, get her next license level, C, and run 150.0 as that is all the tires are rated to. On ward and up ward.
Frank.
Just a note on the method of our maddness. We could kill a creditcard and buy a used NASCAR engine and trans and meet Amy's goal in short order, But what have I/we learned along the way. :-)
You would learn a practical way to get a bullet proof power plant.
That would be one item checked off the to do list.
FREUD
Frank, Thanks for posting your build. Tony :cheers:
Freud, valid point, but I'm use to building little hot rod engines, want to learn the how to's of building a N/A small block with some fairly big power on the relative cheap.
Thanks Tony, my eyeballs just exploded. 8-)
Frank, I was going to compliment you, but after seeing Tony's avatar, forgot what I was going to say!
Thanks for posting your build! :cheers:
What? :-o
This is what the camaro looked like in Jan. '11. 3 months before the first race at Ohio in April. Southeast NC just don't get snow, period. We had 5 snow events that "winter". This winter I think it got cold (below 40deg) for about a week total.
Yikes on the flexplate. Definitely worth the investment to get an SFI rated one. The two drag cars I ran ( the dragster in my avatar and my altered ) both required an SFI flexplate and flexplate shield. Not sure if you have room in the Camaro but it wouldnt hurt to look into a flexplate shield as well Frank. ( well itll hurt the checkbook a little :-) )
Frankie, ya roger that on the SFI plate. We also installed a flexplate shield and a trans blanket. Don't need any drive line bits pizzing Amy off as she is an Irish redhead w/green eyes. I beefed up the drive line to the rear axle. With the front drive shaft loop, had a 3 1/2" drive shaft made and we are installing a rear loop as well. Lesson learned from someone that 'bout had the floor pan in thier car beat to pieces at the salt.
Smart move. And how ironic is that, I'm married to a fiery redhead with green eyes too. Scary :-)
Quote from: Frankie7799 on June 04, 2013, 12:32:17 PM
Smart move. And how ironic is that, I'm married to a fiery redhead with green eyes too. Scary :-)
Yes, but is she beating you with a stick to make her car go faster. :-o
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 04, 2013, 12:40:08 PM
Quote from: Frankie7799 on June 04, 2013, 12:32:17 PM
Smart move. And how ironic is that, I'm married to a fiery redhead with green eyes too. Scary :-)
Yes, but is she beating you with a stick to make her car go faster. :-o
. . . or just for the sport of it?
Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on June 04, 2013, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 04, 2013, 12:40:08 PM
Quote from: Frankie7799 on June 04, 2013, 12:32:17 PM
Smart move. And how ironic is that, I'm married to a fiery redhead with green eyes too. Scary :-)
Yes, but is she beating you with a stick to make her car go faster. :-o
. . . or just for the sport of it?
Yeah, Kate's Irish, too . . .
Since we have established how benign redheads are...
The trans we are using is a Th350 short tail shaft. It was built by Cooks racing Transmissions in Chesnee S. C. about 17 years ago and only had about 500 miles on it. I installed a reverse pattern valve body and it seems to have held up well in storage.
Who'd a thunk it.
Oh yea here is a shot with the front end finished per altered class. New 4" steel cowl induction hooda as well. that beast is heavy.
Looking good, Frank! Wish my 4th Gen had easier headlight covers to fab...
The complex curves had me use the thin (1/16") plastic from Allstar Perf.
May I suggest a set of turbos to "liven" things up for Amy a bit? :-)
Thanks Redhot. Back to the transmission thingy. We'll run the auto until it can't take no more. One thing that I have asked about a few years back and got mixed replies. Torque Converters, I talked to manufacturers and they reply with: match it to the cam. They lean towards the drag race reply. Other folks say get as low a stall converter as you can. Anybody got any input on what dirction to go. As we build HP and Amys skills increase we will be looking towards using a coupler and giving her a push or a manual trans. Just need some input to ease my worried brow. :? I welcome any advice.
Frank, Could you post a side profile or a front quarter shot with your hood? I am also thinking of using a 4" cowl induction scoop on the Firebird. Tony
Here ya go Tony, I'll get you a side view soon.
I have heard of running "towing" converters which are fairly tight..
another option: no torque converter and run a GV with the free wheel option---I just push off and jerk it into gear. Run a stock valve body also, With no tc multiplier I have had no friction disk problemos
Thanks for the input Sparky. We currently have, I guess it would be called a towing converter. 1800-2000 rpm stall. Going to be looking for someting different next year to try to get rid of some parasitic hp loss.
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 06, 2013, 12:20:28 PM
Thanks for the input Sparky. We currently have, I guess it would be called a towing converter. 1800-2000 rpm stall. Going to be looking for someting different next year to try to get rid of some parasitic hp loss.
Lock-up converter? Maybe that's an option...
(Been 10+ years since I've hot-rodded anything w/4 wheels so I'm rusty with that but it's what came to mind...)
By buddy Tom Sarda (co-founder of the ECTA) usually has some used Jerico
RR-4 transmissions in stock. As NASCAR transitions into newer gear, this stuff
can be available for a reasonable price. He builds & maintains the stuff for a
few teams, so his junk is GOOD. The parasitic loss is minimal, clutches can be
had for cheap and you can bang shift them to kingdom come! :mrgreen:
Thanks Luke for the lead. that set-up is way out of our budget for a while. Right now the current experiment is to see what we can achieve on the supercheap. (read free or found monies, parts, tax refunds, gifts, beg or barrow). Amy can row the gears and I have a toploader begging to be stuffed into some thing. It might find its way into the camaro next year. 8-)
Frank if after my wife and I go to El Mirage for our first taste of LSR and I get her blessing to go LSR that's about how my build will be lol. Thankfully at this point there are a lot of open records in rear engine mod roadster. Might be my best bet on setting a record lol
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 06, 2013, 07:19:19 PM
Amy can row the gears and I have a toploader begging to be stuffed into some thing. It might find its way into the camaro next year. 8-)
That Toploader would be great, and will get you HP=MPH on the top end. Shifting w/o
the clutch gained a few MPH for me as well, surely there's a website that will give you
the optimal RPM to bang-shift a Toploader?
Quote from: Frankie7799 on June 06, 2013, 08:22:25 PM
Frank if after my wife and I go to El Mirage for our first taste of LSR and I get her blessing to go LSR that's about how my build will be lol. Thankfully at this point there are a lot of open records in rear engine mod roadster. Might be my best bet on setting a record lol
Frankie, our next build was going to be REMR but after inventorying parts on hand and remembering that I have a '63 Triumph Spitfire (complete less eng.) in storage I think we will go with Modified Sport as there are a lot of open records in that one in the mile as well. :-D
Yep Luke there is a sweet spot on the TL's to "bang da gears". I might have to start scrounging parts. Another improvement for next year will be swapping out the 3.08 rear gears for 2.73.
Frank.
Be aware of a couple things . . .
There are over 20 RMRs entered a SpeedWeek this year -- some looking at the open records.
And El Mirage has some stiff, but fair, minimums in every open class.
Thanks Stan but we don't do speedweek or other salt/dirt events yet. we poor. we don't have the time or funds at this time. We are on a learning curve and run standing mile events. I know your feelings on such activities but we have to start somewhere.
Frank, Thanks for posting the picture. Tony :cheers:
Stan, Frank never really mentioned anything about RMRs and the open records I did. RMRs is the class Im considering building a car for. I had never even really paid the class much attention until Sparky mentioned something about them one afternoon at his place. Ill have a better idea if Im even going to build a LSR car at all after the July meet in El Mirage. Itll be the first time that my wife and I attend an LSR event. Im sure Ill like it but I dont know if she will be ok with all the dust, dirt and wind. Not that a drag strip is much better. She always supported my drag racing and was the one person I counted on at the track. It was our thing to do together. If she doesnt like LSR than I doubt Ill even build a car. I wont go LSR without her support and blessing. Ill continue helping Sparky finish up his car and go to the races with him. RMR looks like a neat class and it puts my two favorite cars together in one package. Only time will tell what happens.
Sorry for the thread hijack Capt'n :-)
SOP, :-D
Here we are in Ohio at the July '12 meet. We first ran the car at the April meet when it was ugly cold and wet. the july meet was brutely hot. Our best speed with the burito motor with little to no tuning was 137.66. That year was Amys first time in a purpose built car. not too shaby. I;ll be posting this years up grades next. Side shot for Tony. The car is still a little high with 1.5" lowering springs. Thinking about whacking one round out of them to get it lower but don't want to screw up the alignment because as Amy puts it it drives like it's on rails and the factory camber adj is about maxed to get it to zero.
SOP, :-D :-o
Frankie---you just need to be as smart as Cap'n T
Get a car that your child bride thinks is cute, paint it her favorite color and make her the primary driver---you will get to go racin :-D
Dag Sparky, your giving away my secrets. Don't get me wrong I likes goin' real fast. Amy has got it bad. which works for me. :-D She's in full pout mode as we can't go to Ohio this weekend. I think I'll take shooting, usually relaxesher a bit.
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 07, 2013, 06:10:26 AM
Remembering that I have a '63 Triumph Spitfire (complete less eng.) in storage I think we will go with Modified Sport as there are a lot of open records in that one in the mile as well. :-D
This is really too funny, Frank!
You have a Spitfire and I have a 72 GT6.....We both like LSR but we have built/are building something else. :?
I really thought about MS for my GT6 but I didn't have the heart to cut it up for LSR. After my Rampage is finished, I'm getting back to the GT6 with an engine, trans and rear end swap (already have all the parts) for a fun street ride. :-D
Now all I need to do is finish the Rampage and here I am in Wilmington, OH.
Oh well, life is GOOD!.....LOL!
Gregg
Quote from: gkabbt on June 07, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
... I'm getting back to the GT6 with an engine, trans and rear end swap (already have all the parts) for a fun street ride. :-D
Gregg
2.3 liter turbocharged with a 5-speed? 8-)
Mike
Quote from: 4-barrel Mike on June 07, 2013, 02:11:17 PM
2.3 liter turbocharged with a 5-speed? 8-)
Mike
Mike....Yes and Yes and with a Thunderbird 7.5 IRS diff. I'm on Turboford as GT6GKA although I don't post much.
Gregg
Quote from: gkabbt on June 07, 2013, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: 4-barrel Mike on June 07, 2013, 02:11:17 PM
2.3 liter turbocharged with a 5-speed? 8-)
Mike
Mike....Yes and Yes and with a Thunderbird 7.5 IRS diff. I'm on Turboford as GT6GKA.
Gregg
Oh well I guess I'll have to come up with a diff combo as that was what I was thinking of running as I have some of the bits and pieces on the shelf already :-o Great minds think alike eh Gregg :cheers:
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 07, 2013, 02:21:04 PM
Oh well I guess I'll have to come up with a diff combo as that was what I was thinking of running as I have some of the bits and pieces on the shelf already :-o Great minds think alike eh Gregg :cheers:
Frank, go for this combo with your Spitfire in MS. :cheers: My GT6 will be for the street only.
Yeah about the great minds thing and that is why it was so funny to me. :-D
Gregg
Cool Gregg. I'm on it. :-D
Quote from: gkabbt on June 07, 2013, 02:16:39 PM
Mike....Yes and Yes and with a Thunderbird 7.5 IRS diff. I'm on Turboford as GT6GKA although I don't post much.
Gregg
Yep! 8-)
Mike
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 07, 2013, 06:15:17 AM
Yep Luke there is a sweet spot on the TL's to "bang da gears". I might have to start scrounging parts. Another improvement for next year will be swapping out the 3.08 rear gears for 2.73.
Frank.
2.73's are great for top end, but make sure you
have the HP to push it. We put the 2.50's in the
Camaro with the expectation of Bonneville and
lost MPH in the mile... Would have hit 200+ at
Maxton with a 2.73 or 3.00, only got 196.xxx :(
Gear for the eng speed you want at the START of the timing traps
Sparky PM sent.
Sorry for the delay in posting, I'm having some trouble that Sir Jon of Slim is working to resolve. Please stand by.
2012 we had overheating problems. 1. water pump wired backwards at the factory, no shite. no really. and the stock radiatorwas not up to task. We replaced it with a double pass 2 core. man that thing holds a lot.
Made some brackets as none of the stock stuff would work.
The stock steering column was in need of replacement. The tilt mechanism started to fall apart. Real race cars aint got no tilt streeing. So picked up a new column from Trent. pretty nice for the price. Being one that will repurpose parts as oposed to buying stuff the old column was about to become a fire wall mount for the new column.
The old column firewall mount was a conveniant tidbit to use to monut the new column. After wacking the tube and a little drimel work on the lower bushing, it held the new columnat the needed angle and there were no more problems trying to seal the hole.
More streering column. Made the upper mount and viola a new solid steering column to keep Amy pointed in the right direction. total 3 hours fab time including smoke breaks.
In addition to the new column I took out the power steering box after convincing Amy that she could steer it just fine with a manual box. A clean and tight fleabay purchase did trick. aslo gained a few more ponies as well.
Column looks nice, I like the mount parts. Always a pleasure to deal with you guys!
Thanks Trent, the parts are spot on. Heres a few pic's of some other things we did "just because".
Whipped up a new gas pedal as the old stock one was getting loose. finally added some inner door panel to clean it up and reduce the risk of Amy getting hung up on something while getting out of the car.
Heres the little burito 350 after we took it out of the car this past winter. Basically all we did to run last year was put a new intake, carb and MSD ignition on it. The engine is a barter piece from a buddy of mine. It seemed to have low street mile on it. It ran well enough and got the car to 137 and change on our first time out. the spec's on it are as follows
approx. 290hp @ 5100rpm, we ran up to 6000rpm just because.
approx. 326 ft/lb torque @ 3750 rpm. ok
max recommended rpm - 5100rpm, ok
comp. ratio: 8.5:1
Heads: cast iron, 76cc -1.94 intake/1.5 exh.
Cam lift: .450 in. /.460 exh.. check it, it was real close.
Flat tappet Duration: @.050" 222*int / 222* exh.
Conn. rods powdered metal
Block: 4 bolt main, 2 pc. rear seal
crank: cast iron, nodular, 3.480" stroke
Rocker arms : 1.5 stamped steel
Timing: 34*BTDC total advance, increased to 36*
Amy put 10 passes on it at the drag strip to get use to the car. She ran it to 6000rpm on all passes.
She made a total of 8 passes at the April,2012 meet running it to 6000rpm. no problems.
Frank, love the bead rolled door panels.
Looking at the burrito specs from an ex-counterman from a speed shops perspective, there are so many little things that could be done to pep it up. I also know about budgets as I ran my drag cars on dental floss budgets and itll be no different with LSR.
Im enjoying the reading.
Frank:
Enjoying the thread. The reverse build diary. That's how I will have to do it. When the car is done or as done as it will get for a while. Then I will have time to organize the pictures and list the steps of the build.
BR
Pictures are a great way to know when building and tear downs. It's a great refresher. Every little bracket should be photografted
and kept with the build book, the log book is for running the vehicle and taking notes when running. I used to make a template for 90% of the parts I made and they went with the car when sold. They can be numbered and cataloged. You wont be soory down the road when something is broken or needs to be modified etc.
Quote from: Frankie7799 on June 13, 2013, 02:43:17 PM
Frank, love the bead rolled door panels.
Looking at the burrito specs from an ex-counterman from a speed shops perspective, there are so many little things that could be done to pep it up. I also know about budgets as I ran my drag cars on dental floss budgets and itll be no different with LSR.
Im enjoying the reading.
Frankie, we have done a little pepping this year that I will get too. Dental floss budgets are what we live by, Amy being an over paid school teacher and all.
Quote from: wheelrdealer on June 13, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
Frank:
Enjoying the thread. The reverse build diary. That's how I will have to do it. When the car is done or as done as it will get for a while. Then I will have time to organize the pictures and list the steps of the build.
BR
Thats me, Mr Bass Ackwards.
Glen, Yep photos for refering to on tear down and reassembly works well for me as I'm a visual kind a guy. Tell me how to do sometthing you'll have to tell me twice, Show me how and thats all I need. I have the receipts for every part for the build book and a matching photo. the log book only has notes for one year. that will change in Sept.
After getting the engine mostly apart I noticed some "mud" oozing around in the block. It would appear that the truck this came out of had a radiator leak. I flushed 2 and a half buckets of good old stop leak gunk out of it. No wonder it ran a bit hot.
A pile of parts going away and a pile installed. Got rid of the wizzer heads, cam intake, ect. keeping the rotating assem. for this year ($). Next years plan is to replace the raotating assem. with a little more performance oriented bits. I haven't decided on just what parts or "kit" yet.
Post tear down inspection reveiled..... no surprises. Cylinder bores, although could have used a hone job, looked good with no noticable wear or damage :-D. They averaged 4.002" across all eight. Crankshaft end play was spot on at.006".
Does dental floss go farther than SS recipts?
Nope. The floss is in the form of tax refund. that is a one time deal. :-D
After a healthy cleaning wrenches started to fly. The motor held 58 to 60 lbs. oil pressure at idle at temp. Knowing that I thought it in my best interest not to yank the main or rod caps. Please note: Murphys law does not apply to me. He lives in my house, eats my food, drinks ALL my beer. Hence I saw no reason to tempt Mr. Murphy by pulling the caps. I did, however, replace the main bolts with an ARP main stud kit with the hopes of adding a little strenght and installed a windage tray because the catalog said it would free up HP. :-D
CT that should be a no brain'r---by used NASCAR stuff!!! you want have to travel far :-D
Quote from: SPARKY on June 14, 2013, 09:44:28 AM
CT that should be a no brain'r---by used NASCAR stuff!!! you want have to travel far :-D
Yep Sparky, picking up bits and pieces of nascar stuff as I can. Most will be used when it's time for the little burrito motor to go away and be replaced with something a little more substantial when she can no longer provide the umph needed to get to the next level. I buy in pairs when I can so I will have the parts when I start my car project. I need to go fast too. :-D
I haven't built a motor in over 30+ years so, instead of picking parts here and there and hoping things work we went the "kit" route. We picked up an Edelbrock top end kit. they are "matched" parts that are suposed to produce 435hp on a mild 350. Since the burrito has 8.5:1 comp. the hp numbers will not be quit that. Maybe next year with the rotating assembly up grade the hp numbers should up there.
The heads in this kit are Edelbrock performer E-Tec 170's. specs are as follows
170cc intake ports
70cc exh
64cc chambers
1.46" springs, .575" max lift roller cam
assembled with screw in rocker studs and guide plates
These should do for now. When it time yo up grade these will find a new home in another project. If I don't destroy them first. :-o
Frank, that is a good starting point. I would rather race than replace parts and constantly tune a temperamental race car. I went 167 at Maxton with a pretty mild D motor with a tunnel ram. Just fueled it up every third run. Had a blast. The second trip I "got smart" and changed a bunch of stuff looking for 175. Worked on the car more than I raced and then it only ran 166.
BR
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 14, 2013, 06:42:21 PM
The heads in this kit are Edelbrock performer E-Tec 170's. specs are as follows
170cc intake ports
70cc exh
64cc chambers
1.46" springs, .575" max lift roller cam
assembled with screw in rocker studs and guide plates
These should do for now. When it time yo up grade these will find a new home in another project. If I don't destroy them first. :-o
The intake is an Edelbrock RPM air gap vortec. We will more than likely change it to a victor intake next year with the other up grades.
cam specs:
.539/.548 lift. 296*/ 300* avd. dur. I got an edumacation on checking and re-checking with the degree wheel. I do believe I got pretty good with the device.
Add 1.5 roller rockers, 1 3/4" Dougs long tube headers, 750 carb. Stud girdles and bits and pieces.
Thanks BR. Reliability and HP gain is our current modus op. Get Amy going a little faster each meet then pick brains, ask questions then make improvements for the next meet. I do realize that to achieve our ultimate goal we will have to go BIG at some point but we are still in the learning curve. Local resources are slim to none. Tuners, bikes, roundy rounders and about 80,000 U.S. Marines so I relie on this forum for info and guidance. The fellow in the attached photo helping stuff the motor in the car is my sudo-son Johnathan Perez. He adopted me about 15 yrs.ago as he comes from a fatherless family, good kid, into crotch rockets,in a good way. :cheers:
Tadaa. Motor is in. 1 3/4" headers went in easier than I thought. If I could have gotten the car up about 3' they would have been a breeze. I hate crawling around on driveway concrete, getting too old for that. Now to scratch up some dyno cash to see what we have.
Since my carb tuning skills are most good for the street I decided that a little modern tech was in order to try to get the most out of what we have. Found this neat litle A/F ratio meterthat will interface with a master data logger. As a stand alone unit it has programmable features and records ratios by event, lap or time. This ought to help when we get the beast to the dyno.
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 14, 2013, 07:37:24 PM
The fellow in the attached photo helping stuff the motor in the car is my sudo-son Johnathan Perez. He adopted me about 15 yrs.ago as he comes from a fatherless family, good kid, into crotch rockets,in a good way. :cheers:
Frank, really enjoying this build diary!
Also, GREAT story on Johnathan.....Good on ya, Mate! :cheers:
Gregg
Gotta love the A/F meter... They're
so cheap anymore, and really a big
help with tuning... Looking forward
to Amy getting that C license!
Quote from: gkabbt on June 18, 2013, 04:23:45 AM
Quote from: Captthundarr on June 14, 2013, 07:37:24 PM
The fellow in the attached photo helping stuff the motor in the car is my sudo-son Johnathan Perez. He adopted me about 15 yrs.ago as he comes from a fatherless family, good kid, into crotch rockets,in a good way. :cheers:
Frank, really enjoying this build diary!
Also, GREAT story on Johnathan.....Good on ya, Mate! :cheers:
Gregg
Thanks Gregg, since I've never had kids, JP helped my grow as a person as well. When he was young (12 or 13) he would come over and talk about his problems so I helped him and he made me think before I opened my yap to responde to his question. We live about a 1/4 mile from the ocean so I got him into fishing as that was what I was into at the time. Then he got all grode up and discovered girls, cars and motorcycles, the down fall of every man. He's a good kid, has a steady jod at a motorcycle dealership and a real purty girlfriend who just got back from Afganistan. She's a Marine. Oooo Rah.
Thanks Luke. We really need to hit that mark to stay on track. Otherwise next year will be double hard on the wallet. Might have to sell a guitar or three, maybe a couple of amps. :-o The cats are out of the question.
Frank.
Hormones---its those Dodge pesky hormones :-P
That motor seems healthy enough as it sits... have you considered N2O?
Dave Matyjasik is very knowledgable on the subject, lives in NC and may
even have some "spare" parts lying around for a good price... He's a wiz
at jetting the fuel and juice appropriately as well. He's greenjunk on here.
N2o will put us in the fuel class Luke. Thats not out of the question but for the near term we want to stick with C/GALT. But If Amy wants to just run for her goal then juice, turbos or jet pack will be tried :-D
Capt,
Enjoyed your build. Having fun on a budget (sort of). I approached my project a little differently - - had a motor that needed wheels. About the same result - - 137 mph, so far. But I don't quite see 200 on the near horizon! Good luck to you and Amy.
Tom
Not much going on. Doing some pretty up work painting the inside, (flat black makes things kind of hard to find quickly) going with a light color, almond I think. Also some body work, fit and finish. Will be heading to the drag strip in a week or two for shake down runs ect. and to the dyno when I can sell back enough deposit cans and bottles. Oh ya, my laptop took a pooo so post pics is down for a bit. :x
Let me know when y'all go to the drag strip and I'll take a ride down and catch up with you guys. You going to Coastal Plains Dragway?
Gregg
Yep Gregg. We might go this friday but may put it of till next friday. They have test-n-tune and street legal drags fridays after 5 pm. Tooooooo much rain lately. Glad to have ya come down. We'll feed ya. :-D
Quote from: Captthundarr on July 01, 2013, 01:04:10 PM
Yep Gregg. We might go this friday but may put it of till next friday. They have test-n-tune and street legal drags fridays after 5 pm. Tooooooo much rain lately. Glad to have ya come down. We'll feed ya. :-D
Can't make it this Friday. I'm heading out to Wilmington for the July meet and will be leaving Thursday. If it's next Friday, I'll be there.
It's been raining cats and dogs here too (where did that expression come from? LOL!).....Almost 4" since last Saturday and more on the way.
Keep me posted on when y'all go draggin'.
Gregg
Ooops, forgot about the meet. Be safe, have fun. My folks want to go to the strip as well. We'll do it the next weekend. I'll pm you.
Quote from: Captthundarr on July 01, 2013, 03:56:11 PM
Ooops, forgot about the meet. Be safe, have fun. My folks want to go to the strip as well. We'll do it the next weekend. I'll pm you.
Sounds good and looking forward to it! :cheers:
It's been about 35 years since I was last at Coastal Plains.....Damn, how time flies! :-D
Gregg
Cleaned the car up and painted the inside to help keep it a little cooler and easier to clean. heading to the drag strip tomorrow afternoon so Amy can get some seat time with the new shifter and engine combo. Gregg, Half the Rampage brothers, is coming down for a visit to witness the fun.
Looks great
Car looks really clean Capt'n. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
Add a huffer, tip the bottle...... :-D
Beer drinkers refer to bottles. Hard core racers tip the can.
FREUD
Quote from: 38flattie on July 12, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
Add a huffer, tip the bottle...... :-D
Baby steps, Flattie, baby steps :-D
Quote from: Captthundarr on July 11, 2013, 07:40:40 PM
Cleaned the car up and painted the inside to help keep it a little cooler and easier to clean. heading to the drag strip tomorrow afternoon so Amy can get some seat time with the new shifter and engine combo. Gregg, Half the Rampage brothers, is coming down for a visit to witness the fun.
Looking good Frank.....I think you guys will be happier with the light interior color.
To bad about the rainout yesterday.....I was REALLY looking forward to the visit.
Let me know when y'all are planning another trip to the dragstrip and I'll come down.
Gregg
Frank and Amy, great build. Keep plugging away. We need to talk sometime so I can bounce some ideas off of you!
Wade
Thanks Wade, P M me any time. Always glad to help if I can.
Well after a rain delay or two we finally got the car to the drag strip for some shake down runs. I ran it first, crash test dummy I guess. It ran smooth and straight with no surprises and the breaks are true and tight. Amy ran it twice, back to back, without coming back to the pits. The track is lit but as the sun sets the track requires "a tail light" to run. Ain't got no working tail lights. :? Learned a few things. 1. The carb is a wee bit lean. The A/F meter I installed read 18:1 on the top end (1/4 mile) according to Amy. Me thinks me needs to fatten it up a bit.
2. New manual steering is nice and tight with no slop, Thanks for the parts hook up T-man.
3. Got a scrubbing noise under neith. Gotta hunt that down.
4. The new shifter seemed to do the job, will double check everything anyway.
All in all it was time well spent. Amy is in Buffalo, NY to see family and Anchor bar wings,yum.
We will most likely hit the drag strip a couple more times before the meet in Ohio in September.
Awesome Frank! The interior looks real good! :cheers:
We did another test and tune at the drag strip this past friday and were overall pleased. I made some jet changes since the last trip to the strip as the little burrito was running way lean. Amy needed some seat time as she was having some issues with the new shifter. After I informed her that she wasn't going to break the shifter and to treat it like her ex-husbands nut sack her shifting improved greatly. :) We got 5 runs in before the weather started pizzing rain at 9pm, time for food any way.
Amy ran a best of 98.3 mph at 15.2 in the 1/4 mile. Not too bad considering we have 3.08 gears and a TH350 slush box. Oh and Amy aint no drag racer.
One thing that is obvious to us is that a 1500 stall torque converter is too tight for for the new engine combo. Gotta get a new one in the 2500-2700 range.
Frank
Awesome Frank! I love the interior color. I will definitely be stealing that idea for the interior of Hank!
Mr. Captthundarr Sir,
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, FRANK !!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
May you have many more!
Tell Amy I said Hi!
Gregg
Why thank you Gregg. I think I'll spend the day doing one of my fav activities...work on race car. gotta see where the trans fluid is coming from :? May haps we'll see you at the strip this friday. Have a good day
Frank.
Quote from: Captthundarr on August 18, 2013, 07:04:35 AM
.....gotta see where the trans fluid is coming from :? May haps we'll see you at the strip this friday. Have a good day
Frank.
Pretty much always something on a race car.....good or bad! :-D
Sorry, can't make it this Friday. Lynda and I are leaving this Saturday on a MAJOR ROAD TRIP.....Taking 2 weeks to get out to the WoS. :-o
I'll see you and Amy in Wilmington for the September meet. :cheers:
Gregg
Wooo hoo, good for you. Keep us posted along the way as well as the event activities. Keep safe.
Frank and Amy.
Quote from: Captthundarr on August 18, 2013, 07:20:43 AM
Wooo hoo, good for you. Keep us posted along the way as well as the event activities. Keep safe.
Frank and Amy.
Will have my camera and laptop with me so I'll post pics at the end of the day.....like I do in Wilmington.
Also, I posted in the Audio From The Great White Dyno thread this morning that I'll be glad to make a side trip to Milwaukee and pickup the webcast equipment from Chris and take it out to WoS. Waiting on his reply.
Gregg
Another good trip to the drag strip. The new torque converter really did the trick. The car launches well without Amy having to do excessive leg work outs to hold the car on the line. It looks like about everything is done except for some minor tuning and cashing in cans and bottles for hotel and food money. With some luck Amy will get her "C" license and I will have new goals for next year.
here's to Miss Amy's "C"
Thanks Sparky, Next year is going to be a bit tougher. We are trying to step a level each year. the "B" will require a lot more Hp, areo, may haps a trans and some gears, maybe.
Frank.
When is a "C" better than a "D" for a woman?
FREUD
Golf?
Thanks Stan, I don't get it. I have a head ache.
I never had golf in mind...............
FREUD
Quote from: Captthundarr on August 24, 2013, 05:35:57 AM
Another good trip to the drag strip. The new torque converter really did the trick. The car launches well without Amy having to do excessive leg work outs to hold the car on the line. It looks like about everything is done except for some minor tuning and cashing in cans and bottles for hotel and food money. With some luck Amy will get her "C" license and I will have new goals for next year.
Congrats to you and Amy.....Sounds like a good trip to the strip!
I'll see you two in Wilmington in September!
Gregg
Currently in Wilmington, OH on our way to WoS!
Gregg, good luck in Wilmington! :cheers:
I wish I could be there to see you run, but work is going to get in my way!
A couple of tangential notes: "C" isn't better than "D" for many female attributes, but in race competition licensing -- it is better.
Stan, remember that "golf" spelled backwards is "flog". Take that for what it's worth.
As for Gregg (whose real name is Gerry, no matter what he says) - he's now due to stop by at Milwaukee Midget's house today for a visit to the home of the #996 car and to get the afore-mentioned audio streaming gear for WoS. Yee-hah, I think this is gonna be great.
Back to your topic, Cap't. T.
Mr. Captthundarr Sir,
We are ALL patiently waiting on the update from Jack Scratch Central about your September Wilmington outing.....including videos! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Gregg
Vids are coming Gregg, Got back home sunday night at midnight. We don't 10 hour drives very well these days esp. pulling the car. I will say that the weekend was chock full of interesting events for us. More on that later. I will say that we got close to our goal of 150.00 mph with Amys final run at 144.138. Got to break her of letting off before the line as she didn't want to go over 150. :roll:
I'll post links to the bucket when I get every thing moved tonite.
Frank
P.s. Great hanging with you. Next time we set dinner time and place.
GLAD you guys had a successful weekend! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
I also enjoyed hanging with you and Amy as well and YES, let's do the dinner thing next time!
Gregg
Frank & Amy- had a great time hanging with you
guys in line and around the track. Our offer for a
dinner in Winston is always open. Cheers to 144!
Thanks Luke, double congrats to you and the double hats. Yup, I see an overnighter to Winston in the near future. Need me some bacon :-D
10 hours? It would take me 30 hours to get to Wilmington :-) Glad you had a good outing. Id like to go there someday
Don't get me wrong Frankie, I ain't complaining. It would take us a fat week to head west. After 2 back surgeries ect.and the wife's fibromyalgia we just can't do the road trips like we use to. I hate to see how it will be when I get old. :roll:
I didn't think you were Frank. I was looking the other day at how far Wilmington was from here in Phoenix. Had no idea how far it was till then. I'm glad the salt is only 10 hours from here.
Good to hear you had a good run Frank. Congrats to Amy. :cheers:
Quote from: tauruck on October 01, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
Good to hear you had a good run Frank. Congrats to Amy. :cheers:
Thanks Mike. Now I get to buy new tires so we can run over 150 safely next year. :-D the good side iswe won't have to dump a bucket of money in the car this year. :cheers: hope all is well with you.
Yup, rubber is expensive these days. I'm happy you guys don't have to go on spending big bucks on the car now. I've got to find over $3000 plus shipping for the M/T tires I need. Over here that's going to be around 45 grand. Know where I can get a cheap ski mask?. 8-)
Now that winter's approaching what do you do in the "off season"?. Keep well Frank.
Mike, winter here just means I don't have to cut the grass as often. Projects will include, but not limited too, race car prep for next year, new back deck on the house, some resto work on our 71 mustang convetable. Oh yeah, I'll pull the parts for my modified sports lsr project out of storage to layout a game plan. :-D Amy has hers, time for mine to get started.
At least you won't be bored. I tell you one thing, I won't cut grass, not ever. I hate that like you won't believe. The closest I get is sharpening the mower's blade. I'd like to see your project frank, are you going to start a thread?. I had a 69 Mustang sans a motor but sold it due to pressure and if I had my way my old lounge furniture would be my lawn furniture. Long story. :-D
It's 6AM here, beautiful sunrise and I'm ready for work. Big day today!.
Mike, I'll start a thread but first things first. Gotta clean out the garage to make room for the
'next one"
Been trying to post some vids of Amy's run with no luck. I trimmed them down to the bare minimum and trying to load them on youtube tonight. we will see. There is one on our racing facebook page if anyone does the FB thing. Jack Scratch Racing@facebook.com I think.
Quote from: Captthundarr on October 04, 2013, 06:38:56 PM
Mike, I'll start a thread but first things first. Gotta clean out the garage to make room for the
'next one"
Guess what I'm doing today?. Not looking forward to it and there's tons to move. Where to put it all is the problem. I don't do FB so when you have a link to the vid let us know. God Bless.
Frank, did you get that line card I emailed?
Ya Trent thanks. Gotta make some decisions for Amy's camaro and the new project :-D then I'll be contacting you.
Frank.
Cool man! Looking forward to the new ride! :cheers:
HI folks, things got slow, desk top crapped out life in the way blah blah blah.
Didn't do much this year as funds bees tight. Swapped the dual plane intake that came with the top end kit I put in last year for a victor single plane. got some real race tires so Amy can safely run over a buck fifty. :-D a
When the weather warmed up a little we took the car to one of the schools that Amy teaches at. They have a "car clur" for 5th and 6th graders where they build models and tour dealerships, kinda cool. Amy did a powerpoint about landspeed racing and they loved it.
Finally got the door net installed, Mr. Stroud is a pleasure to deal with.
inside
A more robust hood latch. didn't trust a 23 year old factory cable.
Amy noted last year that the rear end felt light, not loose, just light. Sooo I added 140lbs. of lead the bumper this should help. if I need to add more weight it will be over the rear axle.
Whole lotta lead! Sung to led Zepp
Trent, even with that Amy smoked the tires at the drag strip last night for about an 1/8 mile. we were doing some shake down runs getting ready for Ohio in july. She's not used to wheel spin so when she grabbed second gear they lit up and she didn't let off. That's my girl. :-D
Had a good trip to wilmington. Amy ran 155, 158 then 159.34 and we changed classes and the new AA/GALT record. Last year we did 144.00. Amazing what happens when you put the car on a dyno and find 100hp. Properly adjusted rockers on cyl. #5 helps. Also Hepled get Angela Brenner her licensing passes and she topped out at 159.02. I recon the car is consistant. sunday was a wash. Timing lights took a poo the the rain came.
More hoursepower and areo on tap for next year. headed to 175.00
Good to hear that you guys did well.
Are you going to SW?.
Nope, we be poor racing folk. Wilminton = 1500 round trip. SW = 10,000 approx from the east coast. Besides, our car has ECTA stickers on ;/. Need to catch up on your stuff.
Glad too see you guys going faster!
Quote from: Captthundarr on July 22, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
Amazing what happens when you put the car on a dyno and find 100hp.
That would be like me finding another engine in the trunk. :-D
And I'll bet the car was a lot easier to drive, too!
Congrats, Amy, on that license uptick, and kudos to Frank - you've bolted together a GOOD one! :cheers:
Right on Frank! The car sounds very consistent. I'm sure the new wheels helped with some of that. :roll:
Thanks everyone, and yep the wheels did help. Game plan for next year is to get the girls to around 175. More to come.
Just got my latest issue of Bonneville Racing News and wanted to share for those who do not subscribe.
Wendy put in many pics with captions from the July Wilmington meet and she included one of Amy and Frank's 9281.
Here is a scan I did and emailed to Amy and Frank and wanted to share with everyone else.
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Stuff/9281Camaro_zps422e48a4.jpg)
Great going guys and see you next year!
Gregg
Thanks Gregg, we'll be working with Mike Maty this year to get both of the girls up to around 175. Chages will include dropping in Mikes 383, rerouting the headers for ground clearance, air dam work and some more suspension work to get in the weeds. The photo shows the car sitting a bit high so down it goes. Give us a holla if we can come up and give you a hand with your little truck.
Hi all still here hovering on everyones builds, commenting when I have something half way intelligent to add. Everyone knows the drill, work /life then racing. The weather finally cleared and warmed up and I've been working on the car when daylight permits. Lots of changes this year to help get the girls to our new goals. We are still working with Mike Maty and Angela Brenne this year. Planning on dropping Mikes 383 in the camaro for some hp infusion. We will be running gas and fuel (nitros). Top speeds and records are great but we are getting into speeds that the Amy and Angela aren't use to so seat time is the rule for our first meet in june at the mile. I'll be adding more Posts with pics soon.
Frank, I wish you and Amy all the best. You sure put in the hard yards and it will pay off. :cheers:
Thanks Mike. We've been at it for 7 years now. Started with Amy's Kia Spectra, the little red Kia that could, It was bone stock but got it to 116.xx mph. It's been a learning curve. We be getting there.
Frank -
You and Amy going to Wilmington next month? I'm coming to spectate.
Cheers!
Chris
Chris, nope. Amys Work schedule forbids it. Besides the car is still apart. Waiting on getting my trans rebuilt and Mike Matys engine down my way to install. I need to get off my arse and post some of this years build improvements/upgrades. We will be there in June and Sept.
Frank.
Can't wait to see the upgrades.
God Bless.
Needed get get the camaro a bit lower the help the aero out. Picked up some 2 inch drop spindles that just happened to have some Strange slotted discs and 4 piston calipers with them. We are shooting for 175 or better this year so these should help in the stopping department.
Frank,
Rotors do not look 'Happy'...give me a call if you want to replace them.
J
Frank;
I agree with Joe. If you replace the brake rotors, avoid those with slots, holes, etc.- they generate cracks from heat expansion. The most effective rotors are just good vented cast iron.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Joe gets a call tomorrow.
With the car lowered the headers would be scrapping the concrete, not good. Picked up some Schoenfeld street stock headers mounted them backwards ans hacked them up. Nothing better than taking a sawsall to new headers. The exhaust will exit out the fenders in front of the tires.
Finished product, lots of room, really.
Frank;
I'm using Shoenfeld headers,too- their sprint car version.
Just one thing to think about-- in SCCA road racing those header exits wouldn't be allowed. They require the exhausts to exit behind the driver to prevent his being asphyxiated. You'll need lots of fresh air to keep yourself from getting woozy or getting a headache.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Neil, its good that Amy and Angela aren't road racing. There is a 2.5 inch duct that provides fresh air. It picks up air from an opening above the air dam.
Bitchin' Frank! I like it. I'm just a little jealous that your "shop" is warmer than mine right now.
Thanks Joe, the rain does slow things down a bit. Heat and cold I can work in. Snow and rain not so much :-D
Last year we had 2 ladies, one car and one seat. Worked ok but Angela Brenner is a little smaller than Amy. Angelas driving position is about 5 inches closer to the wheel and pedals than Amy so that required moving the seat and installing additional brackets and a mid back support. All that was fine but Angela was still a bit loose in the seat, no pun intended. Mike Matyjasik got Angela a 15 inch wide seat that snugs her up nicely. Taking another seat to the track and swapping them is not what I like to do during my down time between runs but it makes for some interesting compettion between the ladies. Which one gets top speed and sorting who may get a record. The true goal of all this is to get them track time at speed (hope 175ish) and practice with releasing a chute. Pics of race seats ain't no fun so there aren't any.
All done cept for some touch ups . Off to the dyno Saturday to see what Mike Maty's 383 will do. Thought I'd post a shot of where the magic happens, Jack Scratch racing speed shop.
There would be more room to work in the garage if the car were smaller. :wink:
I like the exhaust solution, Frank.
Post up some numbers when you get back from the dyno.
Chris :cheers:
Looking great Frank. :cheers:
Frank, I REALLY like this picture a lot:
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12743.0;attach=51387;image)
See you fine folks in a few weeks. Fingers crossed for some 175+ runs.
Gregg
Been battling my biannual head/chest/sinus cold thing for about a week so I haven't felt like posting any thing let alone work on the car. I think I have finally died so I can get on with thing. Big thanks to Steve Ashworth Race Engines for the use of the chassis dyno. Me and Mike Matyjasik strapped Amy camaro and let the dust fly. When it was all said and done we had 424hp and 402 lb-ft to the rear wheels. With 27" tires and 308 gear in the gen 3 bod this should get the girls to our current goal of 175mph and their "B" licenses.
Top is this year. Bottom is last. Seems every time we go up there we gain 100 hp.....
Awesome Frank! I don't know much about a dyno, but the curves look the same. There's just a lot more of it this year!
Thanks Joe, the 383 is a bit more torquie on the low end. The girls be gonna have some fun.
Looks good should be fun !!
Frank-
Those numbers should definitely get them around 175. IIRC, we went mid-160s at Maxton
with less power and aero than you have now. Can't wait for a couple of B licenses!!! :cheers:
Wow, I wish I had a dyno graph like that. That car should move.
About 1000 RPM where it doesn't drop below 400 - That's impressive, Frank, and the improvements over the last go, even more so.
While you're shooting for those B licenses, you might as well fill out the paperwork for pilot's licenses! :cheers:
MM watch your mouth we do not talk about things flying :-D
What Sparky said :cheers:
Hit the drag strip last night for some shake down runs and to run the new brakes in. Everything went well, Man that motor pulls. Big thanks to Mike Matyjasik and Angela Brenner for the motor. It is the "old" 383 out of their Time Bomb camaro. Sure got some funny looks from folks at the track. I had to explain that the car ain't quick... It's FAST! The local constabulary froun on my texting on the local roads :x :-D
Quote from: Captthundarr on May 30, 2015, 08:50:52 AM
Sure got some funny looks from folks at the track.
They always will . . .
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Curious as to what kind of speed Amy saw at the end of the quarter?
Chris, we averaged about 100 mph in the 1/4. didn't launch it hard just rolled out then on it for setting the new brakes and checking for issues.
Haven't post our results from June meet so here goes. 1st run motor shut down because the fuel pump safety switches (got 2) tripped, they drive me nuts ran 145.xx second run was chute test everything went well, 161.xx third run told Amy to stand on it, new record and personal best, 180.577!!
Amy gets real happy going faster....
Nice, congrats.
Bill
Thanks Bill, We will see what we can do in Sept. then we will more than likely take a year or two of. Amy's goal of 200 is an expensive proposition for us poor folks so we will be trying to see what we can do to get the horsepower up the the required level without hocking the house. :-D
All that matters is that smile! :cheers:
That's why I do it. You should see the pissed off Irish red head when she don't go faster than the last race :-o. Really it's worth all the hard work. :-D
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Congrats to you both!!
Nice accomplishment.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Fordboy