I heard through the grapevine that the Board recently met regarding proceeding with Speedweek....has anyone heard anything new lately?
I hear they are going to meet next month to make a final decision.I hear USFRA will be doing the same.
I guess keep pressing forward!
Quote from: 07R1LSR on June 28, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
I heard through the grapevine that the Board recently met regarding proceeding with Speedweek....has anyone heard anything new lately?
I'm neither an SCTA or BNI member, but friends pass things along. I got this about 2 weeks ago, and thought that an SCTA Club Member would post this. Emphasis add to highlight the pertinent info.
B.N.I. Report: Many compelling arguments on both sides of the fence about whether or not we should be holding a Speedweek event at all.
Some people feel the BNI Board move ahead with the event and follow the guidelines agreed to by the different government entities involved. Others feel that the Board should consider a higher standard of responsibility. They feel that as a association we cannot guarantee the safety of everyone on the salt to a degree necessary that would allow us to have an event. Jill mentioned that there are not enough rooms at the motel to put all the workers in a single room. She thinks the Board members are very informed about all current events and need to be brutally honest about what is happening. She thinks we still have time to make a decision. Bill suggested we wait another month and talk about it again. Pat is ok with that. So next Board meeting date is TBD.
Judy asked about polling the workers so we have input on whether they will be coming or not. Pat responded by saying he will instruct all the supervisors to contact their people and get feedback that way. He also thinks people will say they are coming right to the very end so they do not lose their room and then cancel at the last minute. Judy feels it is important to consider the input from the workers on how many can actually come before a decision is made on Speedweek. Pat agreed. Pat?s has heard that estimates for motel occupancy during Speedweek will be at 50%. Posters are ready for sale. Pat still needs to contact Eddie on the Penske truck. Bill said folks from other countries that are now not able to make it, are asking for their money back. Pat suggested we give them all the money back. Jill suggested we have a cutoff date for partial refund. Ron said the foreign racers who know what they are doing come in through Canada, it?s not that difficult if you are enterprising. Heather clarified that the people we are talking about are the foreign competitors who have just now recently found out that they will not be able to travel. Trailer maintenance at Wendover is making steady progress. Frank Scott is working with Chris. Chris needs to move the timing trailer to a spot that more level where it can be raised safely. Chis has made arraignments with a friend who has a local generator they we can borrow to raise the trailer. This will save us a couple grand from renting a generator. l.
Save The Salt Report: Rick Head gave his report. In a conference call on Tuesday May 26th, Rick heard from others (Larry Volk) that the salt is in bad shape. It?s still tacky, very thin in some areas out to the six mile. There was no pumping of any significant number compared to past season totals. We are still fighting at the Federal and State level. The State is meeting in July; the funds approved in the past for salt restoration could be in jeopardy. Pat mentioned that we have not gone to see the salt ourselves yet. That will be a key factor in determining for ourselves what shape the salt is in.
I've attached the entire Minutes of May 29th, 2020 Board Meeting as a PDF file.
BNI has been to the Salt 6/19/20, dragged several course and reports the courses look good, this IS 20 days are more form the above report.
Go to home BNI/SCTA news flash
But still unanswered questions about hotel rooms and workers.
JL222
I've read this on the Utah's State Website: I'm not sure whether each vehicle entering I-80 or on the side road or even crossing the state line at the hotel/casino will receive a message each time..we shall see.
(CNN)Utah Gov. Gary Herbert issued an executive order Thursday requiring adults entering the state to disclose their travel plans in the latest state-led crackdown on domestic travel amid the novel coronavirus pandemic.
The order, which goes into effect Friday morning, applies to all adults regardless of how they enter the state. The governor's office said Thursday visitors will get instructions on how to register their travel plans via an automatic text message when they arrive in the state.
"I am impressed with the extraordinary things that Utahns are doing each day to help one another stay safe and stay home. In recent days, however, we have seen an uptick in travel on our roads," Herbert said in a statement.
"We need to limit our travel to essential purposes only. Our goal is to trace potential cases of Covid-19 in inbound travelers."
The order comes as the number of known coronavirus cases in the US surges past 454,000 with at least 16,200 deaths as of Thursday evening. In Utah alone, there are some 1,848 cases with 13 deaths, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
The program went into effect Friday with nine checkpoints at roads into the state and Salt Lake City airport.
John Gleason, public information officer for the Utah Department of Transportation, said at a news conference Friday that the state's plan to collect travel information from visitors is "voluntary at this time."
"We're calling upon all of the citizens who drive into the state of Utah or otherwise land at the Salt Lake City International Airport to comply with the order by voluntarily going on to the website and filling out that information," Gleason said.
Other states have also put into effect measures to limit travelers to their states. Texas has a mandatory 14-day self-quarantine for anyone traveling from New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and the city of New Orleans; Rhode Island issued a similar mandate for anyone traveling to the state from New York or anyone who had been to New York in the previous 14 days; and Florida also mandated a 14-day self-quarantine for travelers coming to the Sunshine State from airports in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Still, Herbert remains one of the few remaining US governors who has resisted issuing a statewide stay-at-home order -- favoring instead a "stay home, stay safe" directive that he says strikes a more positive tone.
"These directives are not to be confused with a shelter-in-place order," his instructions state.
This approach runs counter to guidance from Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, who has repeatedly said he doesn't understand why every state hasn't issued stay-at-home orders.
"I don't understand why that's not happening," Fauci told CNN's Anderson Cooper during CNN's coronavirus town hall earlier this month.
In response, a growing number of governors have called for a unified front among states to issues stay-at-home orders.
"Our message is this: 'What are you waiting for?'" California Gov. Gavin Newsom told CNN when asked about governors who haven't followed suit.
"What more evidence do you need? If you think it's not going to happen to you, there are many proof points all across this country; for that matter, around the rest of the world."
This story has been updated with additional information after the order took effect.
Yep..this is why I asked....if Utah is requiring this I cant imagine them being ok with any sort of large gathering. Here in Idaho, we have had a pretty big flare up (according to media) once again. The county I live in has gone back a stage. I would rather someone make a concrete decision earlier than later...but for now I guess I will keep pressing forward.
From the minutes I received from my source this morning:
"Bill reported about the Course Prep trip. Two courses were dragged, six miles on each course. They will be able to drag father in the near future. Could use a bit more rain. Bill is talking to USFRA to do some more dragging. Timing tower will be at the 3 ? mile marker. There will be only one timing slip trailer. Three channels will be utilized on the FM radio. Pat reported on the workers survey asking about COVID-19 concerns.. Some workers are concerned, the majority were not. He has about 8 ? 10 people that have said they are not coming. Still some gray area on this topic. Jill is still waiting on an inspectors list for the motel. There will be a Speedweek, so if you don?t feel you want to take the risk, don?t attend."
That is an old report, Tone. They quote 13 deaths, we're at 167 as of today in Utah. Just setting the record straight.
Wayno
Also, I don't think they're checking everyone coming into the state anymore. :cheers:
Wayno
tf737sb wrote There will be a Speedweek, so if you don?t feel you want to take the risk, don?t attend."
While RISK is one concern Its doubtful the continuing spread will be much better by August however theres other concerns for those of us who have a long journey when heading to Wendover. Planing on a cross country drive is obviously not so simple this year. If the decision is made to cancel the event to be fair to us long distance racers a couple of weeks notice is needed so the hotel reservation arrangements can be canceled with enough notice not to cost us additional money. I realized when I pre registered if the event is canceled $50.00 would be kept for the coarse prep/etc and the rest refunded. For our journey West as an example theres three nights spent in a hotel canceling reservations with advance notice would save us additional money.
Just wanted to vent a bit and hopefully the right decision is made
Ronnieroadster
Quote from: Elmo Rodge on June 29, 2020, 11:10:43 AM
Also, I don't think they're checking everyone coming into the state anymore. :cheers:
Wayno
I just got back from Moab yesterday.
Not as crowded as usual but still plenty of tourist.
Texas plates everywhere.
Less than half of the people wearing masks.
No mention of checking in with the state, quarantining, etc.
For those of us that have been cooped up in our garages working on our cars vigorously to get them ready for this event, glad to hear that Speedweek is going to happen. Lets hope Utah's Governor doesn't shut our event down. Its wonderful to see that the SCTA/BNI board is taking the extra steps needed to add signs, sneeze guards, and other safety guidelines. Also, what better place to practice "social distancing" then at Bonneville. Your not going to get any bigger of an area to have venue, would we?
Its most important to take upon our self's to keep each other safe, "personal responsibility" Because, our parents did teach us about proper cleanliness when we were growing up.
Stay safe and keep a positive attitude. See you on the salt!
"Also, what better place to practice "social distancing" then at Bonneville."
But what a terrible place to enforce that. Meaning the old meanies could so very easily shut it down even before the Drivers Meeting.
Ever see just one guy working on a car there?
I realize the Governors report was older but very pertinent to what is happening currently. Changing from orange to yellow opened a lot just like California without the colors. The Lt. Governor wants some countries to go green with masks not even mandatory. Tooele county is not the lowest county of Utah so those planning on coming should be aware of what can happen and many need to drive across the entire state.
Yes cases everywhere are going up. The under 30 crowd don?t give a ??#% in most cases because cases are mild and few die.
Look at the LSR fraternity as a whole. We are the ageing and in California over 70% of the deaths are 65-up and 24-down is ZERO. Do I want to come up?.. damn right I do. Will I .... I don?t know yet. Do I wear a mask .... yes everytime I?m out and will there too, near ANYONE.
Personally when I ran, for the most part, it was my son and I and it is today if we could get back on El Mirage and Perris Speedway with our dirt car.... but we wait too.
The informed are smart... the misinformed are ... you guess. JD
That's the absolute best post you've ever made, J.D.
We've both got our Red Hats ? and we've both driven there, said Hello and driven home ? probably more than once. We were chancing on the weather ? and it didn't work. There was no threat to us our our family and crew, so we turned around and said, "Maybe next year."
It happens. As Cree said (I think), "We're not going to Disneyland this year." Doesn't mean it will be closed next year.
Hi to all, been reading all the posts on will it happen, they are all good. I first came to the salt in 2004 and got salt fever. Have helped many people reach their goal and made many friends, but some thing to think about. Someone said if you don't feel safe don't come, well that is nice but did you ever hear of peer pressure? I'm already feeling it and that is not right. As much as I love the salt I love being a first responder on our VFD where I live. I have seen this virus hit and when your told after a run to wash your cloths and take a shower then wait for test results it becomes real. We also have to talk about the good people of Wendover, what if one of us brings it in, what if your on the line ready to run and the track is shut down because they have to take someone to Salt Lake City. Wendover has no ICU beds I think and then how do they trace it? Do we all have to shelter for 2 weeks. Just some food for thought
Anyone thinking about going to Hot August Nights in Reno before going to
Speed-week can forget it, as they have cancel the event until 2021.
"Hot August Nights Postpones 34th Event Until 2021
Ongoing COVID-19 Concerns for Volunteer and Participant Safety is the Priority"
Tom G.
Quote from: mike f on June 30, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
Hi to all, been reading all the posts on will it happen, they are all good. I first came to the salt in 2004 and got salt fever. Have helped many people reach their goal and made many friends, but some thing to think about. Someone said if you don't feel safe don't come, well that is nice but did you ever hear of peer pressure? I'm already feeling it and that is not right. As much as I love the salt I love being a first responder on our VFD where I live. I have seen this virus hit and when your told after a run to wash your cloths and take a shower then wait for test results it becomes real. We also have to talk about the good people of Wendover, what if one of us brings it in, what if your on the line ready to run and the track is shut down because they have to take someone to Salt Lake City. Wendover has no ICU beds I think and then how do they trace it? Do we all have to shelter for 2 weeks. Just some food for thought
HELL NO what a fantasy story.
jl222
There's something endearing but also out-of-touch about this pervasive cult of devil-may-care individualism in the American character where heroes fight as outsiders against overwhelming odds, throwing caution to the wind. It's this fictional ideal that brought me to the U.S. of A., 43 years ago - and now I can't leave, even if I wanted to. Who knew?
Willi
Quote from: jimmy six on June 30, 2020, 11:15:58 AM... cases everywhere are going up...
No, not everywhere. New infections are continuing to decline here, both upstate and in NYC. But... that could change. Most of us continue to "distance & mask", but I'm annoyed by the considerable number who act like it's "over & done".
For those of you that haven't recieved the email...here it is.....
To All,
The ?image? of SCTA has been brought into question in a recent statement sent to the SCTA Board.
Let me reassure each and every one of you that the ?image? & integrity of the SCTA is first and
foremost on our minds in every decision that we make. The membership has voted to have Bill Lattin
& myself lead the SCTA for the last 6 years running. We have been through countless interviews and
news conferences. In each of those, we have strived to maintain the image and integrity of the SCTA.
This situation is no different.
We started this endeavor just like we always do. First, we contacted the local health department to
obtain our ?Mass Gathering? permit. Obviously knowing we are in the midst of a pandemic; we were
hoping for the best. They asked us to submit our stipulations, which we did. They informed us a short
time later that our plan had been approved. Excited with that we moved on to the BLM for our use
permits. They also quickly approved our plan. All outstanding news at this point.
Knowing that because of the pandemic our entries and volunteers would be affected, we sent out a
survey to our workers asking certain questions. To date we have received over 100 surveys. More than
80% have answered that they are ready, willing and able to attend and work.
We know there are people who will choose not to attend, and we totally understand and applaud their
honesty. This is not an easy choice to make and we all know that. It?s hard to say no while others are
going and I know that feeling of being left behind. That is 100% not the case here. There are many
reasons for not attending & they are all personal choice. Once again, we understand and applaud you
for making that difficult choice.
Please know that this has not been an easy choice to make with people wanting to go and people not
wanting to go. We weigh our decision every day. Workers are ready to go, entrants are ready to go,
permits are in place and courses groomed are all very positive signs to proceed. On the other hand, we
have people not wanting to go, not wanting us to have the event and people thinking we are making
bad decisions. Please know that we go over & over every decision one at a time. As always, we put
safety at the top of our list be it for the racers, workers, volunteers and anyone else attending the event.
If anything changes concerning the COVID-19 virus we will quickly move to do whatever is necessary
up to and including cancelling the event. As was said earlier, safety is first and foremost on our minds.
In closing, for those who decide to attend please keep in mind, it?s up to ALL of us to keep everyone
safe so let?s all do our part to make this event as safe as possible. To anyone who does not feel safe,
simply don?t come, we totally understand. Thank you all for your time.
Pat McDowell
BNI Chairman
Bill Lattin
SCTA President
I am a volunteer and responded to the question asking if I am going to work as a tentative yes.
But I have to admit I question one thing, and that is how are we going to act with any sort of safety at the starting line? How exactly does a starter clear you to run without practically getting into the car with you to pull on all your belts, check your helmet strap, arm restraints, neck restraint, fire bottle pins, everything? The driver will already be in their helmet and breathing hard and they definitely wont have a mask on. I understand how we can mitigate risks during almost all of the event but I don't see what can be done for that one.
Genuinely asking.
Even tho I am a fan of our starting line procedures, perhaps it?s time for the drivers and his team to assure the driver is ready. NASCAR USAC, INDY, NHRA starters don?t. The doors, canopy, etc would be open for starter communication If needed.
To me the most important thing a driver needs to know is where he is going: 3 mile short course or 5 mile long course and which way to turn off.
My thoughts on your question. JD
I speak for myself and maybe a few others in the same boat- I am past the 'a little long in the tooth' era of my life ,so between losing years to poor salt/rain-outs etc, I see ANY chance to run as worth the risk-hell, everytime we climb into one of these hotrods, we are gambling our life ! As has been mentioned before, it's not a mandatory thing, if you aren't comfortable, don't attend. I, for one appreciate the hard work that all the volunteers and officials do, and don't want to endanger anybody. But if they choose to attend, we are all grown aduts! Ok, I'm done! Stay safe all ! :cheers: 1drink
JR529, the driver will be wearing a balaclava that is something of a mask and helmets are all full face so drivers are the least of the starters worry. He may want all crew to stand back 10 feet or so while he checks out driver safety equipment. I think this part can be handled safely.
John
A vote by the BNI board tonite from what I have heard from our club on Bonneville. Hoping for good news...
From our club...
Hi All.
Bill Lattin needs our help. Speed Week is on the chopping block at tonights board meeting. If you want Bonneville to happen, contact all the board members
before their meeting. Their contact information is in your 2020 SCTA rule book on pages 205 through 207.
Email all of them to let them to let them know we want to go racing.
There is plenty of room for social distancing and we wear masks, it?s outside so much safer and so on.
Want to go racing? get off your couch and do some emailing or phone calling.
In case your interested in commenting...
blattin69@gmail.com, splashngo39@yahoo.com, allanas@socal.rr.com, jillycallen@hotmail.com, scott709mattern@gmail.com, cartechscta@gmail.com, mike.kaehny@ymail.com, jpc.3574@gmail.com, keith@whitegoosebar.com, rulebookinfo@scta-bni.org, rick@exileturbo.com, dieselsalttoy@aol.com, ron@speeddemon.us, rodly@roadrunner.com, pacificshoresgirl@gmail.com, gogogidgetracing@gmail.com
TO MANY ADDRESSES , MY ANSWER IS ( YESSS ) LETS DO THIS !!!! STEVE ANDERSON TUCSON AZ..
as a fairly new guy , two events running , lots of years getting ready , and observing , im all for going . as stated above , maybe it is time for drivers and crew to take responsibility making sure there driver is buckled in and all other saftey gear is in order. I keep a quick check list on a clip board for my crew ( wifey ) to run down before the hatch is closed . with locations for fire bottle pins , so at a quick glance can see all is in order. rookie drivers and crew maybe needing a little help , I know I surely did the first couple times , lot of stuff to remember. on the salt is probably the easiest place to distance . I wanna go .
Interesting that speedweek is on the chopping block...they just released an email and update on scta page stating it's a go for this year. I'm curious what changed in 5 days??
Just got word that the vote was a "Go"!
Jeff in Boise
Great news Jeff! Thanks for the info-and getting the word out quickly! :clap :friday :cheers: