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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => SpeedWeek 2021 => Topic started by: Bratfink on August 17, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

Title: 2021 event question
Post by: Bratfink on August 17, 2021, 08:44:01 AM
I haven?t seen any chatter about it here, but in the pits there was some conversation about the track closing at 5:30pm firm each day. At one stage even Ron announced if you were in line by a certain time they?d let you until 6 or so (as we have in previous years). But that didn?t happen this year.
I didn?t hear mention of this in the drivers meeting and it came as a surprise to us and other teams.
Can anyone shed any light on the decision?
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 17, 2021, 08:53:40 AM
The 5.30 pm closing time (6pm in previous years) was announced at the drivers meeting.  I remember hearing it and being surprised, just like I was for the 7.30 start time (vs. the 7 am we'd used previously).  The question about running out the vehicles in "pre-stage" at 5.30 vs. shutting down racing at 5.30 was not addressed at the meeting.  On at least one day the officials did run out the vehicles that were in line at 5.30.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Stainless1 on August 17, 2021, 09:45:53 AM
Old people need their rest.... OK it is a volunteer organization...
I heard it and saw a couple of days they stopped at 530...
I like the 730 leave impound not because I like to sleep in but because the sun is less in the drivers eyes because it is higher above the horizon.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Bratfink on August 17, 2021, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on August 17, 2021, 08:53:40 AM
The 5.30 pm closing time (6pm in previous years) was announced at the drivers meeting.

I must have missed that. Apologies.

I get closing the track at 5:30 after Monday, but the first weekend there are a lot of racers and a lot of spectators that paid good money to be there. For the spectators alone we should be putting on a good show. I can see a publicity benefit in running to 6-6:30 the first 3 days, then backing off to 5:30 the rest of the event.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Stan Back on August 17, 2021, 11:57:00 AM
7 or 8 hours is a pretty long show.  And, most of the "big guns" (including the smaller and much-experienced littler ones) are in line, ready to go, after the Drivers Meeting.  A high majority of them won't run later that same day as they've already qualified, broke or are making changes. 
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: ronnieroadster on August 17, 2021, 03:02:04 PM
Quote from: Stan Back on August 17, 2021, 11:57:00 AM
7 or 8 hours is a pretty long show.  And, most of the "big guns" (including the smaller and much-experienced littler ones) are in line, ready to go, after the Drivers Meeting.  A high majority of them won't run later that same day as they've already qualified, broke or are making changes.


That's exactly how I feel about the putting on a show. Were in line early to run when the air is the best and hopefully accomplish some of our goals. No place reading the fine print is there anything about putting on a show.  That's what the car show at the Nugget is for.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: jimmy six on August 17, 2021, 05:57:38 PM
That is absolutely correct.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 17, 2021, 10:32:07 PM
Yes, but....

Rhetorical, devil's advocate question :evil:: how much income do they get from spectator admissions?

Mike
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: gowing on August 17, 2021, 10:53:14 PM
So this event went on from what? late on the 7th. till early on the 13th.?
that's 6 days.

If you start racing a half hour later than normal and end a half hour earlier...
that's 1 hour a day less racing.
multiply that by 6 days, and that's 6 hours less opportunity to race thru the whole event.

never mind the spectators,
The racers are the ones who paid the money to run a full event,
If anyone, they are the ones who got short changed.

Just my opinion, and your math may vary.

Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: sabat on August 18, 2021, 06:22:31 AM
From what I heard on Jon & Ron's live stream, the later days had brief wait times, or even none at all on the short course.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: jimmy six on August 18, 2021, 01:38:46 PM
Gowing? form your own association. Rent the salt and run 24 hours a day. Your the boss.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: gowing on August 18, 2021, 02:31:17 PM
jimmy six: Thank you for your suggestion.
P.S. it's "you're" not "your".
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: TrickyDicky on August 18, 2021, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: jimmy six on August 18, 2021, 01:38:46 PM
Rent the salt and run 24 hours a day.

Isn't that what Ab Jenkins did in the 1930's?

Would the BLM allow running overnight these days?  :evil:
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Stan Back on August 18, 2021, 03:09:29 PM
. . . and "it's" shud have been It's.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Stainless1 on August 18, 2021, 03:52:46 PM
Well we should actually let Slim determine who used the correct grammar... and sentence structure...  :cheers:

But as usual the lines were long the first couple of days, the wrecks caused delays, but I didn't hear anyone complain about being short changed. 
If you were not there racing you should have been.  :dhorse:  cromag
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: gowing on August 18, 2021, 05:06:03 PM
Tough crowd...
I decided to take my bike to BMST instead of speedweek.
Figured that if was going to put in the effort, I'd rather try for an
AMA national record.

Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: sabat on August 18, 2021, 06:13:34 PM
They can be a bit easier than SCTA, depending on your class. What are you running? (I?m not just baiting Stan)
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: jimmy six on August 18, 2021, 08:55:01 PM
The SCTA doesn?t have a problem with those who have a problem. But without a solution included the SCTA doesn?t have a problem.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: SteveM on August 19, 2021, 05:18:17 AM
The line to volunteer is over here somewhere =====>>>>>.

It's Speed Week, not speed weekend.  I for one, am 1000% grateful for all the SCTA, BNI, and other folks who volunteer their time and talent to putting on the entire event.

Let's have a big round of applause for all the volunteers!!!!!  Hip Hip Hooray!!!!

Steve.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: ronnieroadster on August 19, 2021, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: SteveM on August 19, 2021, 05:18:17 AM
The line to volunteer is over here somewhere =====>>>>>.

It's Speed Week, not speed weekend.  I for one, am 1000% grateful for all the SCTA, BNI, and other folks who volunteer their time and talent to putting on the entire event.

Let's have a big round of applause for all the volunteers!!!!!  Hip Hip Hooray!!!!

Steve.


   I agree completely Steve Hip Hip Hooray  :clap  :clap  :clap  :clap  :clap  :clap  :clap  :clap  :clap  :clap
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Dodge Brother on August 21, 2021, 09:03:14 AM
I also whole heartedly agree with Steve's comments. As someone who has been unable to attend due to not being able to cross the border with my race truck for the last two years (thanks COVID) I'd be happy with whatever days/times were provided. If they told me I could only run once a day, I'd still drive the 1000 miles to attend.
This may have been mentioned already but if you look at the entry fee price (especially spectators) and divide it by the number of hours you can be on the salt around (or in ) race cars and friends, it's pretty cheap!
:cheers:   
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Bratfink on August 22, 2021, 03:34:34 PM
I made no comment on the volunteers, no comment on the length of the event as a whole, or any comment on any other aspect of the event. We had a great time as usual, and thank everyone involved.

I merely asked what was behind the decision to shorten the end of racing from 6 to 5:30. 2 pages of responses, but none answer the question.

And FYI, I have spoken to some of the SCTA about volunteering. I?ve been participating since 08, I?m about due to start putting time back in.
Title: Re: 2021 event question
Post by: Stan Back on August 22, 2021, 04:00:13 PM
 Reply #2 on: August 17, 2021, 06:45:53 PM

"Old people need their rest.... OK it is a volunteer organization...
I heard it and saw a couple of days they stopped at 5:30...
I like the 7:30 leave Impound, not because I like to sleep in, but because the sun is less in the driver's eyes because it is higher above the horizon.