Everyone's got an opinion, and I often don't express mine (heh-heh), but it's hard to argue about this one on so many levels . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLkVB-t-Z7o&feature=email
You get no argument from me Stan but we were traction limited with no modern management systems or traction control. My new junk is 4WD.
Sid.
From a consistancy (sp) point of view I would suggest that Speed Demon gets a vote.
DW
Nebulous Theorem deserves a mention .
Definitely the greatest sound on earth....
although Danny's Challenger 2 was a cool sound too...
Sid, time to get your junk down the road and get it rusty :cheers:
The most impressive looking liner was that massive red Herbert & Steen unit that never seemed to set any records. Most beautiful design? The Redhead - not a flat panel on it anywhere.
Quote from: Stainless1 on December 16, 2021, 08:05:09 PM
Definitely the greatest sound on earth....
although Danny's Challenger 2 was a cool sound too...
Sid, time to get your junk down the road and get it rusty :cheers:
I'm wiring right now & I finally have all the custom stuff that I didn't have the talent to machine. Looking to shake it down in the spring.
Sid.
This one
Where at Sid? Need spotters? Keep us informed
Quote from: Stainless1 on December 17, 2021, 08:06:59 AM
Where at Sid? Need spotters? Keep us informed
Southern Utah has a place I like & I got an Idaho off road tag for the liner to keep it all legal--ish! :-D
Home built, single seat, 4 wheels & with a 650 engine. They didn't ask me if it was CC's or Cu In's!
Sid.
When it comes to Blown sounds I like Flashpoint
NA Al Eshenbaugh's four cylinder sound from El M
Yeah, blown nitro makes the best rev-head music!
Sid.
YouTube has a Title" How to build a 400mph streamline". Kent Riches is putting two Hayabusas in a 4 wd liner and is it an awesome build. Everything is just primo. I used to think you could do a liner for maybe 50K. Double that at least. Better not cut corners on a 350-400mph build.
Okay, I've given this topic a lot of thought. I have taken into account the Huge number of records the Nebulus Therum cars have set. The legend status of Mickey Thompson and Danny. the family aspect of the Burklands and the Nish bunch. I was there when Al made his last run with an exit of 430. Of course George poteet is legend. Buuut...I'm going with the Summers Bros. Pollywog car. If it was brought up to current safety standards and had just a few upgrades and corrections (scrub) and the Speed Demons 347 c.i. engine in it I believe it would go SUPER fast. That is the car I would replicate if I had unlimited funds and help. Next keep it going.
Ken Walkey's liner was the same style.
Sid.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ken+walkey+streamliner&oq=ken+walkey+streamliner&aqs=chrome..69i57.23174j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
There is something magical about the Summers Bros. first car, when they were just down to earth hotrodders. Nothing but guts and glory. I think if they would have continued with that car it would have evolved to a high 300 mph car. went over 320 with 700hp and 3 inch of tow in. Ken's car is FWD but nothing like the Pollywog.
Always a huge fan of the Larsen and Cummins streamliner. Amazing craftsmanship beautiful car. But there was still nothing like hearing over the radio "Heads up everyone next up is Al Teague"
Yep -- same could be said of the roadster . . .
"Best" is not only subjective, but vague.
Best what?
Performance?
Beauty?
I have utmost respect and admiration for the folks who designed and built any of the very fast land speed vehicles (particularly streamliners). I find all these vehicles to be absolutely gorgeous, and am impressed with the design and execution in each
case, without exception.
Since land speed racing is (at least in theory) about going fast, my idea of "best" would be based on the vehicle's
performance. Yes, of course, its design affects its performance. My vote for most appropriate design for the (achieved)
performance would tend toward the Carbinite special. I am quite unhappy about its crash -- about 4 years ago -- , as I
had high hopes/expectations for this car to be the first wheel-driven vehicle to go 500 mph. Based on what I read, it
appeared to have been quite capable of this. Meanwhile, best wishes to Rob Freyvogel and his family as he continues to recover from his injuries.
Quote from: tallguy on September 20, 2023, 06:50:15 PM
"Best" is not only subjective, but vague.
Best what?
Performance?
Beauty?
I have utmost respect and admiration for the folks who designed and built any of the very fast land speed vehicles (particularly streamliners). I find all these vehicles to be absolutely gorgeous, and am impressed with the design and execution in each
case, without exception.
Since land speed racing is (at least in theory) about going fast, my idea of "best" would be based on the vehicle's
performance. Yes, of course, its design affects its performance. My vote for most appropriate design for the (achieved)
performance would tend toward the Carbinite special. I am quite unhappy about its crash -- about 4 years ago -- , as I
had high hopes/expectations for this car to be the first wheel-driven vehicle to go 500 mph. Based on what I read, it
appeared to have been quite capable of this. Meanwhile, best wishes to Rob Freyvogel and his family as he continues to recover from his injuries.
Amen!
My favorite ever :998 Nish Streamliner
Quote from: racergeo on December 31, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Okay, I've given this topic a lot of thought. I have taken into account the Huge number of records the Nebulus Therum cars have set. The legend status of Mickey Thompson and Danny. the family aspect of the Burklands and the Nish bunch. I was there when Al made his last run with an exit of 430. Of course George poteet is legend. Buuut...I'm going with the Summers Bros. Pollywog car. If it was brought up to current safety standards and had just a few upgrades and corrections (scrub) and the Speed Demons 347 c.i. engine in it I believe it would go SUPER fast. That is the car I would replicate if I had unlimited funds and help. Next keep it going.
From a streamlining point of view, I was very impressed with Rob Freyvogel's car. I wish it hadn't crashed.
Number 992 was pretty clean on aero. SB
For me from an esthetics stand point I must say Fred Larson's car. Dad and I build a balsa wood replica for my pine wood derby car. Of course we got DQ'd because we didn't use the official block of wood that came with the kit.
Aerovelo Eta. 89.59 mph human powered.
Did your dad run it backwards?
Just kidding. I sure miss him a lot -- so I'd guess it's so much more for you.
In my case, he was just one of the bright, shining lights we come across on this trip.
I like them all but hey I live in Africa!.
Tom's car sounded the best. 8-)
The first car I saw at the first car show I went to- Kenz & Leslie #777. ( about 1958)
Will Willis
XO/GC 6302
As a kid growing up on the 60s it's gotta be Mickey Thompson's Challenger. 406 mph has been burned into my memory since I was 10 years old. I strayed a little in the late 60s when I was able to see Goldenrod up close and personal.
For what my opinion is worth... Rob's "Carbaliner" gets my vote!
Streamliner? They are all cool.
As a kid growing up with Popular Mechanics and Wide World of Sports.... The Budweiser Rocket !
Stan sent this to me. I hope he'll explain it.
Quote from: Stan Back on March 05, 2024, 06:00:54 PM
Did your dad run it backwards?
Just kidding. I sure miss him a lot -- so I'd guess it's so much more for you.
In my case, he was just one of the bright, shining lights we come across on this trip.
Stan, you know Freud, had to do it his way!
OK -- some of you old-timers must remember this.
This guy Cotani brought a race(?) machine, a toater ramp truck, a weird motorhome and this motorcycle over from Italy for SpeedWeek (1972 to 1985 or so).
I guess the bike was a top-loading rider with an interesting view. I'd guess that it would fit under one of the 2035 and a 1/2 of some M/C records.
Stan, I remember seeing that bike in a magazine in the 70s I believe.
What I recall is that he said he used his significant other for the body mold.
Don
Unless I'm wrong . . .
The purpose of a streamliner (vehicle) is to carry a person at relatively high speed.
In the case of land speed racing vehicles, the goal is to set a new land speed record. The goal is not to win awards for
photography, sound, smell, or choreography while performing in an illegal "sideshow".
So . . . based on purpose, I would say that the BEST streamliner is the one that has gone fastest officially, and holds the
existing record. This means, based on official evidence, that the fastest streamliner is the best one.
This still leaves me wondering which one is the fastest, because I don't know a universally-acceptable definition of
"streamliner". Are we going to limit this to officially-sanctioned classes that have the word "streamliner" or "streamliners"
in the name of the class?
There are also different sanctioning organizations that promote land speed racing. Each has its own rules and definitions.
We may not ever all be able to agree on which one(s) to favor, regarding validity/acceptance for the purpose of comparing
which streamliner is best.
I'm always more interested in function, compared to aesthetics. And value judgments may not be the most useful things to
be discussing here anyway (Yes, that's a value judgment on my part). I'd rather talk about engineering-related subjects
that apply to going fast(er) in a vehicle that was designed with aerodynamics in mind. For example, could deliberate
substantial heating or cooling of the skin of a car improve its aerodynamics? If so, how/why? How about vibrations (perhaps
provided by an internal speaker)?