Hi all, this is my first year.
Have people been getting their 2022 rulebooks and whatnot yet? I've been registered for months and just want to make sure I've not been forgotten about. The car is almost done, and I'm prepping up for the 2000 mile road trip to come join you all this year!!!
Whatchabringin?
GW
Nope, I haven't received my tube yet*, either, and I don't think the books are released yet. No doubt I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.
*The tube is the mailing tube/container which members will get. It contains the poster, pins and info sheets. The rulebooks are mailed in a separate envelope. Soon, very soon...
Rule books are out and should be delivered soon.
Absolutely wild to me that the rule book comes out just a month or two before the event.... I hope there aren't any surprises compared to the 2021 version.
"Absolutely wild to me that the rule book comes out just a month or two before the event.... I hope there aren't any surprises compared to the 2021 version."
The good thing about getting the book so late is that it's easy to find the changes even tho there are pages and pages to check out. The changes made over the previous year's book have always been in bold type and easy to find.
I ordered my book from the SCTA store, I received it fairly quickly, and no changes for our class luckily.
Breeze thru the other pages in addition to your class pages. There may be safety and construction changes, too.
Quote from: Blob1620 on June 02, 2022, 12:48:26 PM
Absolutely wild to me that the rule book comes out just a month or two before the event....
I agree.
The changes are only considered after the year's meets have ended. And the clubs weigh in on them, too.
Just a reminder, the rule makers are competitors, too. And your club, if you got one, should be keeping you abreast.
Quote from: Stan Back on June 03, 2022, 01:19:34 PM
The changes are only considered after the year's meets have ended.
Why exactly is that?
Quote from: gowing on June 04, 2022, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Stan Back on June 03, 2022, 01:19:34 PM
The changes are only considered after the year's meets have ended.
Why exactly is that?
Submissions for rule changes close September 1. The requests are looked over by the rules committee and then submitted to the clubs to be discussed and voted on. Sometime in November, there is a rules committee meeting where the clubs and other officials gather to vote. After the vote, the results are presented to the SCTA elected board for approval, ideally during the November board meeting. This has been the SOP for the past 10 years at least.
Quote from: Blob1620 on June 02, 2022, 12:48:26 PM
Absolutely wild to me that the rule book comes out just a month or two before the event.... I hope there aren't any surprises compared to the 2021 version.
The rulebook was delayed this season due to supply chain issues that affected production. I know this sounds like a PC excuse, but all involved in the process worked very hard to get the rule book out in a timely fashion. If you are a member of an SCTA club, you have the ability to stay in touch with what's going on within the organization. If you're not a member and want to know what's going on within the organization, join a club. If you are a member and don't know what the rule changes will be, I suggest you contact your club president.
A big thank you to all the VOLUNTEERS that donate their time so the rest of us can race.
Don
Quote from: MRK on June 05, 2022, 01:46:30 PM
Quote from: Blob1620 on June 02, 2022, 12:48:26 PM
Absolutely wild to me that the rule book comes out just a month or two before the event.... I hope there aren't any surprises compared to the 2021 version.
The rulebook was delayed this season due to supply chain issues that affected production. I know this sounds like a PC excuse, but all involved in the process worked very hard to get the rule book out in a timely fashion. If you are a member of an SCTA club, you have the ability to stay in touch with what's going on within the organization. If you're not a member and want to know what's going on within the organization, join a club. If you are a member and don't know what the rule changes will be, I suggest you contact your club president.
I'm Atlanta based and I've been hearing about clubs a lot in this thread. I'd totally join one, what is your recommendation for a club in my geo? Its extremely easy to write off what I'm saying as somehow unreasonable citing the fact that the SCTA folks are volunteers, however, please keep in mind I'm 2000 miles away and this is my first year with zero experience in this event. thousands and thousands of dollars invested in a huge leap of faith, and all I'm really asking for is someone to reach out to the SCTA email list with updates.... an email listing rule changes from last year.... an update email on where the materials are and why they are late.... anything but crickets....
I'm not asking them to move mountains, I'm just asking for simple communication.
The clubs mentioned are all California based so joining one is not an option. While it would be great if the rule book arrived in January
that's not happening. However one of the things I learned about the inspection process at Speedweek everyone is looking to help so we can run.
It may seem a bit intimidating bringing your car to the new car inspection lane but the inspectors are there to help so you get to run your lakester.
Ronnieroadster
CALL ME , I AM A INSPECTOR .. STEVE 520 591 6318 I CAN HELP
Quote from: ronnieroadster on June 06, 2022, 12:56:01 PM
The clubs mentioned are all California based so joining one is not an option. While it would be great if the rule book arrived in January
that's not happening. However one of the things I learned about the inspection process at Speedweek everyone is looking to help so we can run.
It may seem a bit intimidating bringing your car to the new car inspection lane but the inspectors are there to help so you get to run your lakester.
Ronnieroadster
Not entirely true Ron. There are a few clubs that accept "long distance" members. Most smaller clubs don't because of the duty requirements that all the clubs must participate in. The bigger the club, the bigger the responsibility. 8-)
Quote from: MRK on June 06, 2022, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: ronnieroadster on June 06, 2022, 12:56:01 PM
The clubs mentioned are all California based so joining one is not an option. While it would be great if the rule book arrived in January
that's not happening. However one of the things I learned about the inspection process at Speedweek everyone is looking to help so we can run.
It may seem a bit intimidating bringing your car to the new car inspection lane but the inspectors are there to help so you get to run your lakester.
Ronnieroadster
Not entirely true Ron. There are a few clubs that accept "long distance" members. Most smaller clubs don't because of the duty requirements that all the clubs must participate in. The bigger the club, the bigger the responsibility. 8-)
Actually I do know when I was looking into running my car at El Mirage I understood what the club requirements are. But I doubt the poster would be interested in being a member that requires you to help say at El Mirage the long distance traveling sounds like it would be a bit of a problem.
Ronnieroadster
Once upon a time I wanted to run at El Mirage as well as affiliate with a club to become more active in SCTA goings-on. I checked into it and found that the Gear Grinders (and perhaps others) had a membership class for those of us that couldn't commit to being there for duties. There might have been a surcharge or something, but the system worked. Give it a check-out.
My 2022 Rule Book arrived in Boise today. But it came from USFRA - not SCTA-BNI.
Quote from: trimmers on June 08, 2022, 05:57:58 PM
My 2022 Rule Book arrived in Boise today. But it came from USFRA - not SCTA-BNI.
No surprise there. USFRA was probably sent a few cases via UPS while everybody else's are being mailed individually which of course takes longer.
If you're a BNI member, you'll likely receive another one.
Anyone seen a schedule yet? Website says its coming in May...
Also, I tuned my car based on world final fuel offerings from VP last year, still no idea if MS100 will even be available... which is also disheartening.
In re: VP Fuel at SpeedWeek.
If I remember the story correctly, the VP guys are from a distributor in SLC - not from corporate, and that may well reflect how they do the fuel. I don't know the details of how the decision on what and how to bring is made, but I'm pretty sure SCTA-BNI is in the loop to get the needed fuels for us.
I also know that they have a sense of humor but do pay attention: The first time VP was there, a couple of years ago, I visited them as their toilet was delivered. They were in awe of the salt and the hustle and bustle of everything getting set up. At one point as we chatted I pointed to my red hat and asked if they knew what it signified. Nope - they were newcomers. I told them that they'd learn lots more during the next week, but in the meantime "If you see someone wearing one of these hats, treat him like royalty." They chuckled then, but at the end of the event they allowed as to how I was right.
Quote from: Blob1620 on June 09, 2022, 08:12:10 AM
Anyone seen a schedule yet? Website says its coming in May...
Also, I tuned my car based on world final fuel offerings from VP last year, still no idea if MS100 will even be available... which is also disheartening.
MS100 is on the list of approved "event gasoline" and should be available. It would be a good idea to forecast and relay what your needs will be.
This way you can be assured it's available in the quantities you need.
Pretty easy to do as there is a line on the entry form for the gas you intend to use
John
Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on June 09, 2022, 08:46:36 AM
In re: VP Fuel at SpeedWeek.
If I remember the story correctly, the VP guys are from a distributor in SLC - not from corporate, and that may well reflect how they do the fuel. I don't know the details of how the decision on what and how to bring is made, but I'm pretty sure SCTA-BNI is in the loop to get the needed fuels for us.
I also know that they have a sense of humor but do pay attention: The first time VP was there, a couple of years ago, I visited them as their toilet was delivered. They were in awe of the salt and the hustle and bustle of everything getting set up. At one point as we chatted I pointed to my red hat and asked if they knew what it signified. Nope - they were newcomers. I told them that they'd learn lots more during the next week, but in the meantime "If you see someone wearing one of these hats, treat him like royalty." They chuckled then, but at the end of the event they allowed as to how I was right.
Now that the organization has a few events in the books using VP, there is a pretty good idea of what's needed. With that said, last season there were numerous trips made to SLC to beef up the inventory as the event played out to make sure the competitors had what they needed. I know someone wanted C25 but they claimed it wasn't available although it was on the list. It's wise to forecast your needs and let the organization know what you want and approximately how much you may need.
I listed MS100 as my intended fuel on my registration entry months ago. However, when I get a call from the SCTA office (yesterday) saying I'm holding up a number someone else wants on their car, just a few days after the entry form is sent out with the different number we agreed on months ago... I'm a little skeptical that giving them the info they need is actually getting to the people that need it. Again, its my first year, and the stars will probably align just fine. I'm just saying that there are many easy ways they could be streamlining this process to attract more people to the sport through simple transparency, communication, and planning ahead... :dhorse:
Much like the line on their website that still lists the schedule for speedweek as "Coming in May of 2022"
Quote from: Blob1620 on June 09, 2022, 01:40:59 PM
I listed MS100 as my intended fuel on my registration entry months ago. However, when I get a call from the SCTA office (yesterday) saying I'm holding up a number someone else wants on their car, just a few days after the entry form is sent out with the different number we agreed on months ago... I'm a little skeptical that giving them the info they need is actually getting to the people that need it. Again, its my first year, and the stars will probably align just fine. I'm just saying that there are many easy ways they could be streamlining this process to attract more people to the sport through simple transparency, communication, and planning ahead... :dhorse:
Much like the line on their website that still lists the schedule for speedweek as "Coming in May of 2022"
The vehicle number thing is above my pay grade.
Please send me an email with the link to the page that has the schedule issue you mention.
I will make sure it gets to the person who handles this type of thing.
mike.kaehny@ymail.com
https://scta-bni.org/bonneville - about half way down the page.
OK here's the schedule... all times are MDT
Thursday about noon... salt opens... inspection and pit set up
Friday about 8 salt opens inspection and pit set up all day
Saturday salt opens 7-730... drivers meeting at 9... course drive immediately after, rookie meeting immediately after, then rookies drive the rookie course. Racing starts about 10...
Sunday record runs for the lucky ones... gates open TBA... usually 6, racing 7... but last year is was 630 with return records at 730.... Hey we're all getting old... :laugh:
So plan it like that... arrive early, you'll join the rush...
PRAY for good salt... start that now :cheers:
Quote from: Stainless1 on June 10, 2022, 08:11:42 AM
OK here's the schedule... all times are MDT
Thursday about noon... salt opens... inspection and pit set up
Friday about 8 salt opens inspection and pit set up all day
Saturday salt opens 7-730... drivers meeting at 9... course drive immediately after, rookie meeting immediately after, then rookies drive the rookie course. Racing starts about 10...
Sunday record runs for the lucky ones... gates open TBA... usually 6, racing 7... but last year is was 630 with return records at 730.... Hey we're all getting old... :laugh:
So plan it like that... arrive early, you'll join the rush...
PRAY for good salt... start that now :cheers:
Thanks for all this, much appreciated!