low pressure area inside APS body

Started by sofadriver, April 05, 2014, 10:15:30 PM

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Koncretekid

You've obviously been holding out on us!  Now it's time to share.  Tell us a little more about your build; maybe put it in build diaries.  I'm guessing smallish motor as you're only expecting 120 mph and you've got a very aerodynamic design from what I can see.
Tom
We get too soon oldt, and too late schmart!
Life's uncertain - eat dessert first!

Stainless1

And unless you take advantage of the enclosed tail allowed in APS you may be leaving some speed on the table   :-o
Nice looking scooter
Stainless
Red Hat 228.039, 2001, 65ci, Bockscar Lakester #1000 with a little N2O

sofadriver

Thanks guys.
Now that Im hung up waiting on the motors I'll probably start a build diary.
Thats my A class tail just being fitted. The APS tail is already done. Gotta put it on a diet, though.
Mike in Tacoma

"aww, what the hell - let's just do it".............

Bike #833
100cc A/G, A/F and APS/G (in 2019)

Sumner

Quote from: sofadriver on April 06, 2014, 10:24:35 PM...Were you connected with the Purple Sage store in Las Vegas?

No, wasn't aware of it.  I built the trading post in about '93 and needed a name and had just read Zane Grey's Riders of the Purple Sage and the story was in this area so stole the name from that.

As the others have said keep posting pictures and details,

Sum

Seldom Seen Slim

You mention an APS tail and make it sound like it's different from the plain "A" tail.  As I interpreted it (a handful of years ago) the tail section could be the same in the partial streamlined and naked classes.  It's after the rider so most anything goes.  Has it changed from that?
Jon E. Wennerberg
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Skandia, Michigan
(that's way up north)
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Owner of landracing.com

sofadriver

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on April 07, 2014, 08:01:07 AM
You mention an APS tail and make it sound like it's different from the plain "A" tail.  As I interpreted it (a handful of years ago) the tail section could be the same in the partial streamlined and naked classes.  It's after the rider so most anything goes.  Has it changed from that?
Yep
APS can end 10" behind the tire - A only 3"
A tail cant be below the rim - APS just 4" off the ground and no taller than 36.
If my unconventional home designed APS tail doesnt work I can always use the A tail.
Mike in Tacoma

"aww, what the hell - let's just do it".............

Bike #833
100cc A/G, A/F and APS/G (in 2019)

Koncretekid

Sofa,
I cannot see your tail section.  However, to answer Jon's question, the following tail is now legal in both BUBs and SCTA.  In fact, mine is only 8" beyond the back of the tire; 10" is allowed.
Tom
We get too soon oldt, and too late schmart!
Life's uncertain - eat dessert first!

Seldom Seen Slim

Well, I'll be go to hell.  I guess I should have read the new rules as carefully as I did the old set.
Jon E. Wennerberg
a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim
Skandia, Michigan
(that's way up north)
2 Club member x2
Owner of landracing.com

salt27

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on April 07, 2014, 11:31:45 AM
Well, I'll be go to hell.  I guess I should have read the new rules as carefully as I did the old set.

I think what Jon meant to say was, I'll be go to Hillman or Hupmobile or Honda or something like that.   :-D

sofadriver

 Koncretekid ..........HOLEY MOLEY, Dude!! That's awesome!

If I can get these pics to post I'll start a build diary. I'll be looking for lots of constructive critiques.
Mike in Tacoma

"aww, what the hell - let's just do it".............

Bike #833
100cc A/G, A/F and APS/G (in 2019)

donpearsall

Hey you copy cats!
550 hp 2003 Suzuki Hayabusa Land Speed Racer

sofadriver

Quote from: donpearsall on April 07, 2014, 08:24:53 PM
Hey you copy cats!

Yeah, really! I didn't know there were so many yellow bikes out there.

You're in Tacoma?
I sure would like to chat face to face with someone with some experience at this.
Mike in Tacoma

"aww, what the hell - let's just do it".............

Bike #833
100cc A/G, A/F and APS/G (in 2019)

1212FBGS

Sofa
closing up the front of the fairing can be a good or a bad thing.... really depends on the weight on the front tire and speeds.... CFD will say good but looking at the rake of your fairing it would probably be unstable over 176ish.... the style line at the front of the fairing behind the forks is way way way way way way way way way way way way bad..... way way way way way way way way way way way way too sharp and will create separation drag as the air tumbles down the side of the bike... soften this to a 4" minimum radius.... leading edges round, trailing edges sharp always....

Stan Back

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sofadriver

Quote from: 1212FBGS on May 28, 2014, 07:24:12 PM
Sofa
closing up the front of the fairing can be a good or a bad thing.... really depends on the weight on the front tire and speeds.... CFD will say good but looking at the rake of your fairing it would probably be unstable over 176ish.... the style line at the front of the fairing behind the forks is way way way way way way way way way way way way bad..... way way way way way way way way way way way way too sharp and will create separation drag as the air tumbles down the side of the bike... soften this to a 4" minimum radius.... leading edges round, trailing edges sharp always....
Thanks. This is the kind of input I need. Youre talking about the cheek area only,  right? Following the fork angle is OK?
Mike in Tacoma

"aww, what the hell - let's just do it".............

Bike #833
100cc A/G, A/F and APS/G (in 2019)