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Captthundarr · February 08, 2018, 08:04:52 PM

2015 Rule 3.w Brakes: " Adequate brakes are required in all classes. No Front wheel brakes only systems are allowed. Brake controls shall be within the driver's reach while the driver is securely strapped in the seat."

Just saying. If Steve says 4 wheel well then they have to be adequate...

Jack Gifford · February 08, 2018, 11:47:34 PM

Hmm... the rule itself doesn't appear to require 4-wheel brakes...

Who is "Steve"? Steve Strupp?

Stan Back · February 09, 2018, 09:37:51 AM

. . . and how do they judge what's adequate?

Captthundarr · February 09, 2018, 02:31:36 PM

One would guess that since the rule writers life is not on the line, the builder / driver would know whats "adequate".

ronnieroadster · February 09, 2018, 02:55:34 PM

Quote from: Captthundarr on February 09, 2018, 02:31:36 PM
One would guess that since the rule writers life is not on the line, the builder / driver would know whats "adequate".

My point exactly whats adequate is a safe car thats not made unsafe by rules that can not be applied with any sense of safety. Could it be the rule is being used to cover a possible unsafe condition that being not adequate stopping distance?

Kool Performance · February 09, 2018, 06:59:33 PM

This is Steve
My wife and I are the owners of ECTA

To clarify the adequate term is in the old rule book. Our 2018 rules are being finalized and edited as we speak. They will be published very soon. They will be made available online.
All cars will require 4 wheel brakes and it must be a split system. Meaning if brakes fail on 1 wheel, you will still have brakes on the other axle. There were several factors involved in making this decision. I understand there will be many opinions on this rule. But after reviewing all the factors, this is the decision that had to be made.

Just a little back ground. I am in the 200 club at Bonneville, El Mirage and The Ohio Mile. As a crew chief I have Prepared the car that has put Jack Rogers in 11 200 MPH clubs, in the 757 Camaro.

ronnieroadster · February 09, 2018, 07:38:48 PM

Quote from: Kool Performance on February 09, 2018, 06:59:33 PM
This is Steve
My wife and I are the owners of ECTA

To clarify the adequate term is in the old rule book. Our 2018 rules are being finalized and edited as we speak. They will be published very soon. They will be made available online.
All cars will require 4 wheel brakes and it must be a split system. Meaning if brakes fail on 1 wheel, you will still have brakes on the other axle. There were several factors involved in making this decision. I understand there will be many opinions on this rule. But after reviewing all the factors, this is the decision that had to be made.

Just a little back ground. I am in the 200 club at Bonneville, El Mirage and The Ohio Mile. As a crew chief I have Prepared the car that has put Jack Rogers in 11 200 MPH clubs, in the 757 Camaro.

Well Steve you have eliminated my vehicle as an example from ever being able to run at any further ECTA events. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.

Stainless1 · February 09, 2018, 08:27:12 PM

Come on Ronnie... a couple of 2x4s with a rope pull to rub the fronts and you're racing

Maybe Steve can do exceptions for cars with a proven history of the ability to stop before the pavement runs out... Speed limits for cars without a history to demonstrate ability....
Remember the "back door" on a runway may have hard stuff sitting in the grass

ronnieroadster · February 10, 2018, 05:50:00 PM

Quote from: Stainless1 on February 09, 2018, 08:27:12 PM
Come on Ronnie... a couple of 2x4s with a rope pull to rub the fronts and you're racing
Maybe Steve can do exceptions for cars with a proven history of the ability to stop before the pavement runs out... Speed limits for cars without a history to demonstrate ability....
Remember the "back door" on a runway may have hard stuff sitting in the grass

Stainless Sounds like a very good idea for the cars with proven history but some how I feel thats not going to happen. You know how tight things get in our special construction vehicles and such so trying to add anything to pass this rule is out of the question for my car. We already know the wood idea wont fly but this reminds me my very first car was a 1948 Ford woody and I must admit it had no brakes at all. Good memory's for sure. See you in Wendover.

WOODY@DDLLC · February 11, 2018, 06:13:54 AM

Ronnie, don't let a brake rule change slow you down - pun intended! :x

There will be some major brain stormers in AK in April - come on down and visit - besides we can't wait until August to see ya!

ronnieroadster · February 11, 2018, 03:01:02 PM

Quote from: WOODY@DDLLC on February 11, 2018, 06:13:54 AM
Ronnie, don't let a brake rule change slow you down - pun intended! :x
There will be some major brain stormers in AK in April - come on down and visit - besides we can't wait until August to see ya!

Brain stormers in April heck that leaves me out! Originally was thinking about heading to the event but now have other plans that wont slow me down or cause me a lot of extra unnecessary work and more expense.

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