Classic Engine classes

[cranberryroo]

Are the classes limited to 500, 650, 750, 1000 cc? Can anything under 500 cc run as a Classic (Production, Gasoline, or Fuel) engine?

[Cereal KLR]

Reading chapter 12, article D Production, Classic

Thats looks to be correct. I can`t cut and paste off the PDF.

Here is link to Rules & Regs if you do not have it yet.


http://www.speedtrialsbybub.com/2012_event/2012-AMA-BUB-SR%27S-FINAL.pdf

[Old Scrambler]

So I read the Classic Rules one time.......after 3 I should have it down.  Question; will the Classic class have a cut off year similar to the Vintage class?.........or will it be exclusive to air-cooled motors? 

[cranberryroo]

Must be have "a production date prior to 1978." (for this year)

"Date will progress each year. Classic is defined as a motorcycle 35 years or older."

Nothing about air/water cooled that I can see.

[Old Scrambler]

That's why I'm asking.  Doesn't leave much incentive to build a bike prior to the '81 or '82 introductions of the water-cooled motors. I guess if I start now on Magna I could have it ready to go in 2017.

[wobblywalrus]

You could run a 750cc Suzuki water buffalo triple.  They are old enough and can make decent power.

[Old Scrambler]

I thought about the water buffalo......but its power is also somewhat limited and very much surpassed by the early 80's bikes.  I think this is a very cool idea and will bring out a lot of competition within the class. Vintage......to Classic......to Modern.......why does the Classic have a moving time zone?

[Koncretekid]

I think the classic bike class is an interesting concept, but I wonder how many people will spend the money to build a contender, then pay $600 bucks to set a record that can't last.

[Glen]

with over 1800 MC classes why not build to one of them NO more classes needed.

[cranberryroo]

I think the classic bike class is an interesting concept, but I wonder how many people will spend the money to build a contender, then pay $600 bucks to set a record that can't last.

I think the same could be said about the production classes. I realize there are way more classes than participants, but look how many entrants there were in the 1000 p/p last year. Not everyone comes home with a record.

I thought the saying was, records are not won, they are merely out on loan. Seems like part of racing is trying to be faster than the other guy.

[Old Scrambler]

Tom, Glen, Cranberry.........that's why I am asking.  I think its a great Idea to have a Classic period of bike landspeed records.......but why not declare the exact range of say 1956 to a specific year.........or air-cooled only.......or less than 100 hp when new production.......

[Koncretekid]

Glen & Roo,
I agree, although time will tell.  I think the biggest problem with more classes is the length of the waiting line.  I'd consider running a second bike if there was enough time.  With more classes, there are potentially more entrants, and with more entrants, more money.  Hopefully, with more money, there will be a 3rd or even 4th lane.  Last year, waiting times were sometimes as long as four hours for each run.

[ol38y]

Untill AMA changes their staging and pre-stage system I don't see wait times for the short course changing. The best I've ever done there is 2 runs a day. Waiting in line the rest of the day. The worst was sitting in line from 6:30am while watching others make 3 4 or 5 runs. I made it back to my pit after my first run at 4:30pm.

Don't get me started on the inspection process.       Larry

[manta22]

OK, I'm prepared to get flamed but I think it's time to ask a question:

"Have we reached the point where it is necessary or desireable to run separate events for cars & motorcycles?"

[Stan Back]

Neil --

This is about a separate meet for bikes.

Stan