Photography Question

[Freud]

Captthundarr.......ask Pork Pie, Ray and Scooter.

They may agree with you.

FREUD

[PorkPie]

....not engineering


....just experience, patience and the "klick" in the right moment.....that's all

[PorkPie]

....the title of one of the picture I done, was..."Slippery when Wet".....could be this the answer....

Captthundarr.......ask Pork Pie, Ray and Scooter.

They may agree with you.

FREUD

[PorkPie]

Freud,

300 2,8....and the short distance to the track.....what a dream for a photographer.....wish we still got the chance to do it this way, today....but safety first....

With the today distance I use 520 mm and as you said...enough background....but enough datasize to trim the picture if necessary

[Captthundarr]

Gentalmen, seriously, thanks for the advice as I use to shoot for a local news paper in a former life. I became quite addepted at sports photography but racing is a differant animal as I found while starting to shoot at Maxton and now The Ohio mile where, by your standards we are"right on top of the action".
Frank

[Glen]

I have photos from all 3 and they are all supurb.

[hotrod]

Gentalmen, seriously, thanks for the advice as I use to shoot for a local news paper in a former life. I became quite addepted at sports photography but racing is a differant animal as I found while starting to shoot at Maxton and now The Ohio mile where, by your standards we are"right on top of the action". cheers
Frank

Yes Bonneville is a very challenging venue, it takes time to develop the technique and gather the proper equipment to get good shots of the cars at speed.
In addition to the 3 photographers mentioned above, there are a few others that also go out there every year and spend long days in the sun trying to get good pictures of the cars on the course and staging, and the pits. There are at least 5 - 6 of us that I see out there every year. There are probably a couple more that I never see because they shoot in different locations on the course.

I know even after 40+ years of hobby photography and shooting Bonneville for 6 years I still learn something new every year.
We each shoot hundreds or thousands of pictures each year, so the post processing time is something you need to consider regarding what is involved in getting good shots out there. As all action photography to some extent it is a numbers game. National Geographic photographers shoot over 5000 images to produce the 10 or 12 shots that go ito a feature article. We do the same thing at Bonneville when it comes to shooting the cars at speed. Part of it is just luck being in the right place at the right time to get a shot, but that means watching every single car go by for hours on end. The time it takes to sort through all those shots and select out the small percentage of top shots is an additional investment in time and effort the average person at Bonneville never sees.

Unfortunately too many folks do not appreciate this investment in time and effort, thanks for your supportive comments, we appreciate it!

Larry

[Glen]

Larry as one of the old guys that has been going to Bonneville since 1953 I have seen 1000s of pictures from every kind of camera used on the salt. You are right as to the number of photographers on the salt each year. I think all of us appreciate the work and the time you spend doing this. The digital camera has changed  the world and opened it up to many new hobbies and careers. Thanks to each of you who share.

[Freud]

For a few years I processed the B/W negs in the hotel room and printed each night.  That made for sleepy mornings.

In 1975 I pre-printed each piece of paper and when I printed the foto it said  BONNEVILLE 1975 on the bottom.

I still have people that tell me they still have that foto on their desk, in the album, in their tool box...........

That made the sleepless night worthwhile.

I know there are prints made on the salt now but it's different when the negs needed to be processed and dried,

the trays filled with chemicals in the bath tub and the prints hung to dry. Oh ya, it also required a safelight in the room

where I printed as well as the print processing area.

Oh to be so young and energetic again but that was 37 years ago.

At least the maids didn't have to clean my room at the Wendover Best Western.

Thank You, Mae Pettite.

FREUD

[PorkPie]

HotRod,

you be right, photography at the salt is a learning curve....all the tricks I know today is the result of a long time at the salt.....oh, yes, I'm a little bit longer on the salt as you.

...and I like your photowork...different to mine...but it is the same with Ray the Rat and Scooters work....a photographer is creating his own view...and this makes their picture special.

About photographer from National Geographic and other "look what we can do magazines"....some days ago I read an interview with one of this photographer...he mention that he is doing up to 5000 picture to get 2 or 3 proper one.

We call so photographer....gambler......or (gold)digger....1000s of klicks with the hope there is one lucky picture at last....this guys are not photographer.

As a photographer you have to see at first place what you like to create...not first klick and then see how it works out.....the picture had to be in your mind before it is on the flash card in the camera.

What was when we had slides....the result on the slides was, what you got on the print....there was no pushing and correction possible....you got 36 picture on the roll....and the high cost on developing the film roll and the framing....

In this time the result had to be 3 bad once to 5000 good picture....

When in 2001 Don Vesco set the FIA record....I was there out.....and I got only one chance....no autofocus.....600 mm out of the hand....right hand on the tricker, left hand to focus....and I couldn't say to Don after the run....could you do it again...the picture didn't work out.....

Don and Rick got their pack of poster....and both was happy....

...important is, that you be happy with your own work and you enjoyed to do the photography work.

At last....you be absolute right....some people at the salt do not appreciate our work

[manta22]

I sure appreciate your work, Pork Pie!

Regards, Neil  Tucson

[PorkPie]

Neil,

oh yes, I know that you appreciate my work...as also the work from the other.

Unfortunately we have also exactly opposite "character"....you will not believe what kind of experience we....mean photographer like Ray the Rat, HotRod or myself....had over the years.

Friends like you keep us behind the camera... ....I mean it really....

See you at the salt

Pork Pie

I sure appreciate your work, Pork Pie!

Regards, Neil  Tucson

[manta22]

I'll see you there, Thomas!

[typo41]

Wow!
I feel like a total slacker, I only have two lenses and both are wide to medium. But again I shoot people and moments. I started shooting with some seriousness back in '98 with a Mamyia Press and shot 6 rolls of 10 images. Continued to shoot film till the last possible moment, now I am a film photographer stuck in the digital world. But wait for next year, I have a project planned and it will include film, real black and white film.
Anyway, I hope you all will like the 2012-2013 calendar

Tony Huntimer

[4-barrel Mike]

Wow!  I must have been living in a cave!  Cool!

http://bonneville-calendar.com/Welcome.html

Mike