Question about a Mustang classed in GT

Started by LittleLiner, July 24, 2012, 09:49:46 PM

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LittleLiner

Looking through the ECTA web site I noticed that a Mustang holds the Wilmington records in A, B, C, and D/GT. (car #9340)

Why is that car not classed in the Production sedan classes per ECTA rule book section 5.E?

Milwaukee Midget

Speculation -

If it's an early Shelby GT350, it would only have 2 seats.

Again, speculation . . .
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The Mustang is a factory built two seater street/track car. Over 500 were produced. It has a x-brace across the back seat area, also installed by the factory.The competitor had a rollbar installed to allow it to run to 175mph.
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PatMc

#4
Just ramblin', I'm a cheby guy:

The roadrace version of the Mustang about year 2000?, had 2 seats, but only 300 were made IIRC.  These were street legal.  Cobra-R?

There are new Mustangs for sale today that have 2 seats, but don't have VIN, just P/N, not for use on public highways.  No idea how many.  FR500?

But all Mustangs are built on a 4 seat chassis AFAIK.  It's like saying the Camaro is 2 seater because they make some race versions without back seats.  Yup, there are 3 P/N's you can order for full race 2012 Camaro.  I think it has 1 seat?


MIKE MATY

That car is a new BOSS 302 Laguna Seca edition with factory rear seat delete.
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PatMc

Quote from: MIKE MATY on July 25, 2012, 07:59:54 AM
That car is a new BOSS 302 Laguna Seca edition with factory rear seat delete.

Street legal!  Very cool!  Kinda a waste to drive it in a straight line, but very sweet.

The dragracing model isn't street legal.

1500 Laguna's will be made.

Stan Back

Leaving out the back seat makes it more aero and moves it to GT?

Could a 57 Chevy business coupe run GT, or Mod. Sports with headlight covers?
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Plmkrze

Also, I noticed SS (fuel injected cars) setting records in RS (carb cars), or it may be vise versa. I don't know what's under the hood. If RS can run in SS or SS run in RS, why not just combine the two?  :-)
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I am not sure,  but I do not think Fuel injection and carburation are the only determining factors for RS vs SS...

But then again, I do not run in either class !!

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LittleLiner

Quote from: Joe Timney on July 25, 2012, 04:31:32 AM
The Mustang is a factory built two seater street/track car. Over 500 were produced. It has a x-brace across the back seat area, also installed by the factory.The competitor had a rollbar installed to allow it to run to 175mph.

direct quote from ECTA rule book, page 52, section 5.E Production, middle of second paragraph. . . . .

"If the car was produced and sold with 2 seats in some models and 4 seats (including jump seats) on other models, the car will be classified as a Coupe or Sedan.  Examples include Honda CRX, Ford Mustang GT 350's, Porsche, Nissan 2+2, etc." 

It's a Mustang.  Most Mustangs have 4 seats, a few (like the one in question) have 2 seats.  Either way, the rules seem to imply that it is not a GT class car . . . . .


Joe Timney

If the Mustang didn't have the factory x covering the back, we would have it moved out of GT.

SS is for fuel injected cars...if you see it in RS, protest it or tell one of the four track officials so we can correct it.   Often a new racer doesn't understand the rules or was given bad info.
Joe Timney
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Thanks, Joe!

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MIKE MATY

That brace and and carpets are 2500.00 if you try to buy them. I wanted them bad for my Mustang. Until I saw the price that is.  Ill just have to leave that for the rich Boss owners.
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A/FRS      205.531
D/FSS      159.427
ECTA 200MPH CLUB Ohio
A/FRS       208.530
2013 Hot Rod Top Speed Challenge Winner

Stan Back

. . . but . . . please explain this . . .

"If the car was produced and sold with 2 seats in some models and 4 seats (including jump seats) on other models, the car will be classified as a Coupe or Sedan.  Examples include Honda CRX, Ford Mustang GT 350's, Porsche, Nissan 2+2, etc."
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