Liner budgets.

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bearingburner

 Remember the only difference between men and boys is the price of the toys.

superleggera

Quote from: bearingburner on February 05, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
Remember the only difference between men and boys is the price of the toys.

Or how many thousands of work hours they are willing to lock themselves into their garage/shop to build their dreams with a lot of cool machinery and tools they have collected...
- me: Mark - home: Dry Heat, AZ USA - build: streamliner

kiwi belly tank

Quote from: superleggera on February 05, 2014, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: bearingburner on February 05, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
Remember the only difference between men and boys is the price of the toys.

Or how many thousands of work hours they are willing to lock themselves into their garage/shop to build their dreams with a lot of cool machinery and tools they have collected...
Thats the facts right there, I have over 20,000 hrs in my liner now.
  Sid.

mtkawboy

Doug, if you and Frank die dead broke just consider it perfect timing  :cheers:

Buickguy3

   We'll write the last bad check to the undertaker.
    Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
I keep going faster and faster and I don't know why. All I have to do is live and die.
                   [America]

Kansas Bad Man

One check book would have enough checks to cover a month, started building a liner 20 years ago, since then it takes two, that wouldn't be so bad but over half of the guys selling liner parts want CASH!

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

vwpsycho

At Speedweek 2011 I decided to build a G/PS Volkswagen Passat. Over the next 11-1/2 months, and roughly $50k later, we purchased a junkyard-bound car off the local classifieds, bought some junkyard parts, some ebay parts, a lot of new components, and had a no-compromises cage built by a local racecar fabricator.
We made an effort to use (whenever possible) local (Salt Lake City) vendors and know-how, we missed the 227 mph record at Speedweek 2012, with an official run of 212.922.
In the following year, another $50k was spent on refinements and improvements,  and at Speedweek 2013, a $5 part failed on our third 205-ish pass and pretty much wiped out our only 800 HP two-liter engine.
Then it rained. A lot...
Is it August yet? :?
Abe Potter
Salt Lake City
2571 G/BGC Volkswagen Passat

Sumner

#52
If one is interested in setting records in cars that don't cost an arm and a leg consider studying the cars built by the person who's cars might of set more records than anyone.  Beautiful on the outside but functional and simple on the inside with square tubed chassis's and no high dollar trick parts.  He has been my inspiration.

Who is this man?

The Man......

If I would of thought it was going to cost 30-50K to build a car or more I never would of started as I never could of finished.  I'm not try to diminish the efforts of those that have the money to build high dollar cars and I love seeing those cars, but instead I'm trying to encourage those that don't have those kind of finances into pursuing their dreams,

Sum

Tman

Quote from: Sumner on February 09, 2014, 08:37:44 AM
If one is interested in setting records in cars that don't cost an arm and a leg consider studying the cars build by the person who's cars might of set more records than anyone.  Beautiful on the outside but functional and simple on the inside with square tubed chassis's and no high dollar trick parts.  He has been my inspiration.

Who is this man?

The Man......

If I would of thought it was going to cost 30-50K to build a car or more I never would of started as I never could of finished.  I'm not try to diminish the efforts of those that have the money to build high dollar cars and I love seeing those cars, but instead I'm trying to encourage those that don't have those kind of finances into pursuing their dreams,

Sum


Some think out of the box, Jack has no box.

kustombrad

Yep Sum, he is definitely "THE MAN"! His style and thinking were my inspiration to build my 'liner the way I'm doing it! It's coming along nicely and I've done most everything myself up to this point which has kept the cost way down. What's been really cool is how people have offered to help see this project through with me! That part I was never really expecting.

robfrey

I was also not expecting the kind of help that joined our team either. Both caliber and quantity. This made all the difference. If I told you how much money we had on our car, you would think it must be a piece if junk compared to our competition, but the time! Oh the time! Man hours if paid to a competent shop would be through the roof! Hardware cost are hardware cost and pretty easy to keep track of but man hours, time that could be spent with our families, that what is expensive. Even if we are 100% successful this year, still not sure it will be worth the price. Time will tell. Not getting to run last year was absolutely heartbreaking. I'm still recovering.
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robfrey

All that being said, going after slower engine class records like Jack has done is a great idea and would probably bring just as much fulfillment on a much smaller budget.
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Speed Limit 1000

Jack and Turbo Rick set the G/BFS at 348.743 in 2006. Not bad for a small 2L motor :cheers: Your car is very nice but you still have to run it to see if it is as fast as you think it is :evil:
John Gowetski, red hat @ 221.183 MPH MSA Lakester, Bockscar #1000 60 ci normally aspirated w/N20

Sumner

Quote from: Speed Limit 1000 on February 10, 2014, 12:04:40 PM
Jack and Turbo Rick set the G/BFS at 348.743 in 2006. Not bad for a small 2L motor :cheers: Your car is very nice but you still have to run it to see if it is as fast as you think it is :evil:

Not sure if it was that motor or not but I think Rick has an exit speed or last mile speed over 365  :-), very impressive  :cheers:

Averaging over 500 with a wheel driven car for a mile or a kilo???  Sooner or later it will be done and I hope I see it or at least I'm still here to read about it, but that will be a major, major accomplishment and might still have to be done someplace other than B'ville where one can have a longer course than even the 6 miles at the shoot-out.

Designing a car with the power and the aero to run 500 isn't a huge obstacle.  It is getting it to do it in less than 5 miles so it can average it in the last mile.  Over 300 and you are eating up a mile so fast that the time to accelerate just isn't there anymore, especially on a surface that has the traction the salt allows.  

Speed...seconds to travel a mile

300........... 12 sec
350...........  10.3 sec
400........... 9 sec
450............ 8 sec
475............ 7.6 sec
500............ 7.2 sec
520............ 6.9 sec

The driver will be along for the ride pretty much.  You aren't going to do it pedaling the gas pedal.  The Speed Demon guys are where they are since George can pretty much run WOT the entire run and the computer brings on the power via the turbo's wastegates and traction control probably handles the little blips that need to be taken care of.  Now they just need more traction to make it all happen faster before the 5 or 6 miles are up,

Sum

George Fields

I saw a bit of lettering on the nose of a racer giving homage to the builders who drove. Says it all for me
George [