What does the future hold?

Started by woz, August 31, 2015, 04:12:24 PM

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woz

I assume many are wondering what may be in the future for land speed racing on the salt as we know it?

I feel terrible for the SCTA, USFRA amongst others and all the competitors that spend small (and large) fortunes designing and building machines that can only operate in a few places being shut out again.

I always try to be an optimist but realistically, should the salt simply not "improve" by whatever means, what are the other options such as Alvord, Edwards etc. for the real fast cars to run on?

Let's all hope things are much better in 2016.  For me, just a cancelled hotel, plane flight and car - for the racers and organizations - way, way more painful.

Woz




Milwaukee Midget

It's my hope that the mud will settle - both on the salt and in the ongoing conjecture - that we racers find one-voice based in authoritative and timely information and facts, and that the salt will heal.

Sir Malcolm Campbell wrote, in 1936 -

"The Bonneville Salt Flats are, so far as I know, the only spot on the face of the earth where one can be assured of a straight-away run on a dead flat surface under conditions which will allow a speed of 300 m.p.h. and upwards being achieved in comparative safety."

70 years later, I think bringing Campbell's impression of the salt back to a reality is a goal worth working toward.

Perhaps cars can run record speeds at Alvord or Edwards, but they'll never be "Bonneville Records".
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

jl222

Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on August 31, 2015, 10:46:19 PM
It's my hope that the mud will settle - both on the salt and in the ongoing conjecture - that we racers find one-voice based in authoritative and timely information and facts, and that the salt will heal.

Sir Malcolm Campbell wrote, in 1936 -

"The Bonneville Salt Flats are, so far as I know, the only spot on the face of the earth where one can be assured of a straight-away run on a dead flat surface under conditions which will allow a speed of 300 m.p.h. and upwards being achieved in comparative safety."

70 years later, I think bringing Campbell's impression of the salt back to a reality is a goal worth working toward.

Perhaps cars can run record speeds at Alvord or Edwards, but they'll never be "Bonneville Records".

  Bville salt flats [the salt] was formed from the evaporation of a great salt lake over thousands of years or more, no way can it heal itself.

  The salt has been denuded by the mining company the same way the forests used to be by the logging companies
  Logging companies are now required to replant. Whats the difference.

  Trouble is I don't think anyone representing us has a clue how much area 10.7m tons of salt (supposedly deposited) covers
at 4inches thick.

     JL222

TrickyDicky

According to Wikipedia (and I have read about this elsewhere so it might be true):
QuoteIn 1934 a proposal was made with the support of Malcolm Campbell, the famous racing driver and world speed record holder, to build a 15 mile long racetrack on reclaimed land from Boston to Gibraltar Point, near Skegness. The race track would have also been used as a road to the resort of Skegness when there was no racing. There was also to be a long lake for boat racing inside the track loop.

Perhaps it's time to dust off those plans? :|

SPARKY

Hey  we race boats on an artificial lake here in the desert--Why not?

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woz

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I would imagine that running a very fast car for several miles on pavement would be pretty frightening.  I was looking at property in the Wendover area....many, many acres of very inexpensive desert land available outside of Wendover.


crawford

Do not give up hope, the salt flats will be there for at least 100 more years! and cheap desert land, ok.......
Current Mayor of Wendover Utah, and life long race fan. owns Wendover Carquest auto-parts.

nrhs sales

I have always wondered how much it would cost to build a 10 mile stretch of concrete track say 14 feet wide? Anybody in the road building business.
 

Speed Limit 1000

Quote from: nrhs sales on September 14, 2015, 10:23:26 AM
I have always wondered how much it would cost to build a 10 mile stretch of concrete track say 14 feet wide? Anybody in the road building business.
 

Not very wide to go really fast, maybe OK for Harley fast?
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Stan Back

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Glen

Today at 4:00 PM there is a large gathering of people, BLM, Intreped, the save the salt.org the city of Wendover Nevada and Utah, a group  from Salt Lake city and BYU. and several others. This will include a tour of the salt to show the problem areas, the meeting in town follows. The Governors office and other people from high places are invited. Lets wait to hear the results from this tour and meeting before making any other judgements.
Glen Barrett
Glen
Crew on Turbinator II

South West, Utah

tauruck

Gotta go with Glen on this one.

Nice positive thoughts guys.
Have faith. :cheers:

ronnieroadster

I agree positive thoughts along with four leaf clovers and fingers crossed plus Rosemary beads hanging in the window in the direction of the Salt Flats. Looking forward to the update from Glen.  :-)
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nrhs sales

QuoteI have always wondered how much it would cost to build a 10 mile stretch of concrete track say 14 feet wide? Anybody in the road building business.


Not very wide to go really fast, maybe OK for Harley fast?

Ok so make it 25 ft wide.  I don't care. just wondering how much it would cost. i have heard a million dollars a mile.  is that about right?

joea

25 ft...?...Harley's must be more stable and have better drivers than anyone else ..

Ps might be great for some ...but have fun waiting for tire tech to allow relatively fast flying Mile and kilo