Heavy duty main stud girdle.

Started by tauruck, October 31, 2018, 12:07:30 PM

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tauruck

Is this a viable option for my 351c motor?.
I can go thicker than what's commercially available
and was thinking maybe incorporating the caps into
the plate like you find on the modern motors.
Have the block align bored etc.

Just a thought and you all said there are no dumb questions right?. :cheers:

4-barrel Mike



Says it's from "72 GTS 351C OC Engine Rebuild - Page 1" on forum.grantorinosport.org but you have to be a member to get it.

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tauruck

Is that a yes????.

Thanks guys. The dude with the ally is waiting for me to reply. :cheers:

SPARKY

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Al Eshenbaugh's early Chrysler on 90+ % girdle looks like your top photo mills the main caps for a .035 clamp load no align boring  HE  cemented the block on nitro and/or met   we left some water for the block we are going to run on blown gas
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tauruck

Quote from: 4-barrel Mike on October 31, 2018, 01:19:34 PM


Says it's from "72 GTS 351C OC Engine Rebuild - Page 1" on forum.grantorinosport.org but you have to be a member to get it.

Mike

Thanks Mike. :cheers:

fordboy628

Mike,

Ford blocks, both OEM and aftermarket are notorious for "flexing" when using "power adders".

In addition to some sort of "girdle", consider filling the block water jackets (all the way, or perhaps leaving 1" or so open at the top) with either RokBlock or hydraulic cement.    Really stiffens up the block.    BUT, you MUST leave room for expansion with hydraulic cement, as it expands as it cures.   Both methods distort the block, so plan on final machining afterward.

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tauruck

Thanks so much. I'll need a lot of help on building this motor.
The only "weak" link is the block but it's the Australian thick wall casting.

I haven't had any news on the billet yet. I guess they are deciding if they
really want to cut the piece required out of a full size plate for some crazy
man with a dream!!!!!

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SPARKY

AL's is fabricated out of 1"x2"  metal Bar welded then trued and fit on the mill.
Miss LIBERTY,  changing T.K.I.  to noise, dust, rust, BLUE HATS & hopefully not scrap!!

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We are going to explore the racing N words NITROUS & NITRO!

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tauruck

I have to do what it takes. This is a one shot deal.
Thanks John. God Bless.

tauruck

Will a 4" thick plate do the trick or can I go thinner (80mm)?.

kiwi belly tank

Back in the 80's I built a lot of Clevo's in Aus & had a reputation for affordable fast survivers. On all the race engines I used 4 bolt steel main caps that were made, installed & machined by Lynx Engineering in Sydney. Four of my engines were in race boats, one was in my hydroplane, three were turbo'd & ran the notorious bridge to bridge race that is over one hour long with a brick on the gas pedal. One of them would even run the boat race on saturday & then the ski race on sunday. None ever had a block failure.
  Sid.

tauruck

Sid, that's what my mate Derek keeps telling me.
4 bolt mains are rare here in SA but I can find the material
if I know what to get?.

Thanks for always telling it like it is. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: