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Started by gowing, April 01, 2025, 11:54:53 PM

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PorkPie

I'm very well familiar with that racer, as I was a little bit involved...

some informations are simple not right.

Jeff Shipley start that project in 1995 in Upland (LA area) with a total new concept.

David Haas was never involved in the building, David had several own racer and joined the 300 Chapter with his streamliner, Jeff was in his crew. David is in 10 200 MPH Club, like El Mirage and
in Australia.

Jeff drove the streamliner himself in the beginning - one run was over 260 in the 4th mile at Bonneville.

After David got in the 300 Chapter, he moved over to be the driver of the Sidewinder and support Jeff.

The fastest was close to 300 mph...the sidewinder configuration got Jeff in a problem...

in 1996, when I was at Jeff's place in Upland, we stand in his workshop...he just got the aluminium base finish bend...and he had dropped the engine in...

he said "I wish I done it one inch wider...."...

due to the lack of space (width) the clutch became too small....and this caused a issue through all his runs....


The notes about the streamliner includes a lot of BS...

first of all...this folks talking about AA/BGS and AA/BFS....

this streamliner was never blown...it mostly runs AA/GS....only a few FS runs...

also, the car got brakes on all four wheels...

from aerodynamic view this streamliner works very well...Jeff and I done some test about....

frome the frame build the racer is up to date, for Jeff the drivers safety was priority...the only frame work is at the rear around the driver....

with a standard engine position it could work very well, as this streamliner is very light....full equiped....2200 pounds....due to the concept....
Pork Pie

Photoartist & Historian & 200 MPH Club Member (I/GL 202.8 mph in the orig. Bockscar #1000)

Gary Perkinson

Hmmmm...I have no room anywhere for a nice-looking 32' streamliner, but with two days left in a no-reserve auction, and the price currently at $2,222, I might be willing to punch a hole in the wall for it...  :-D  I'll be interested to see where the price is on Friday...
LTA     G/BGALT Record (1 mile)     143.313
LTA     G/BGALT Record (1.5 mile)  148.321
ECTA   G/BGALT Record (former)    153.009

Stan Back

#3
. . . you won't be the first time.

If I remember correctly, which I don't do very often, Al Teague punched a hole in his mom's garage to accommodate his streamliner built.  Worked for him.
Past (Only) Member of the San Berdoo Roadsters -- "California's Most-Exclusive Roadster Club"

racergeo

 
  So this is two wheel drive and uses those wide tires?? If I bought it I would rename it TARGET 250

Rex Schimmer

Kinda looks like Target 550 without the polish.
Rex
Rex

Not much matters and the rest doesn't matter at all.

PorkPie

front engine powers front wheels

rear engine powers rear wheels

as Jeff said....synchronized by mother nature......

the tires missing some air...they are not that wide....but they increase a lot at high speed....
Pork Pie

Photoartist & Historian & 200 MPH Club Member (I/GL 202.8 mph in the orig. Bockscar #1000)

gowing

Stainless could probably stuff 4 Busa engines in it.

Gary Perkinson

Quote from: Stan Back on April 02, 2025, 09:05:31 AM
. . . you won't be the first time.

If I remember correctly, which I don't do very often, Al Teague punched a hole in his mom's garage to accommodate his streamliner built.  Worked for him.

lol8
LTA     G/BGALT Record (1 mile)     143.313
LTA     G/BGALT Record (1.5 mile)  148.321
ECTA   G/BGALT Record (former)    153.009

kiwi belly tank

Quote from: Gary Perkinson on April 02, 2025, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: Stan Back on April 02, 2025, 09:05:31 AM
. . . you won't be the first time.

If I remember correctly, which I don't do very often, Al Teague punched a hole in his mom's garage to accommodate his streamliner built.  Worked for him.

lol8
When it was still at his mom's place we would take the nose & tail off so it would fit in the garage. 37yrs later I have to do the same with mine. Long cars & short sheds. :?
  Sid.

Rex Schimmer

The Jeff Davis "Saltwinder" is a pretty interesting car. If you look at the BaT description, notice in the second sentence the description of the chassis is that it is "monocoque", that really tweaked my interest so I went through the detail pictures and the construction is very interesting, to say the least. The main "frame" between the rear drivers section is a U shaped piece of what appears to be 1/4 inch thick aluminum plate with an extra piece of aluminum bar attached to the upper edges to proved additional stiffness and stability. Things like the transmissions and the belt drive assemblies appear to be bolted directly to the chassis/body/floor. If you were into building  streamliner that is pretty much flat bottom and flat sided this is a pretty good idea. Think of all of the extra room to mount things if you don't have to work around a bunch of frame rails and tubing,and when you are done a big piece of the body is already done! The only real tube work is the drivers cockpit. 

If I was only younger I might try this method, it would work for a lakester too.

Rex
Rex

Not much matters and the rest doesn't matter at all.

PorkPie

Rex,

the builder and original owner was Jeff Shipley from Upland (LA area)

this streamliner run up to 2015...last time at El Mirage with David Haas behind the steering wheel....

the aluminum u-shape base is out of 6mm thick material...bend in a Long Beach shipyard...needs Jeff 24 hours to do it....



Quote from: Rex Schimmer on April 04, 2025, 01:32:20 PM
The Jeff Davis "Saltwinder" is a pretty interesting car. If you look at the BaT description, notice in the second sentence the description of the chassis is that it is "monocoque", that really tweaked my interest so I went through the detail pictures and the construction is very interesting, to say the least. The main "frame" between the rear drivers section is a U shaped piece of what appears to be 1/4 inch thick aluminum plate with an extra piece of aluminum bar attached to the upper edges to proved additional stiffness and stability. Things like the transmissions and the belt drive assemblies appear to be bolted directly to the chassis/body/floor. If you were into building  streamliner that is pretty much flat bottom and flat sided this is a pretty good idea. Think of all of the extra room to mount things if you don't have to work around a bunch of frame rails and tubing,and when you are done a big piece of the body is already done! The only real tube work is the drivers cockpit. 

If I was only younger I might try this method, it would work for a lakester too.

Rex
Pork Pie

Photoartist & Historian & 200 MPH Club Member (I/GL 202.8 mph in the orig. Bockscar #1000)

Dodge Brother

Sold $14,500 I don't even know what to say.......................I have more into my Mini-Pickup  :?

gowing

14.5 is an awesome price.
Hopefully the new owner wants to race it.

fissionspeed

Quote from: Dodge Brother on April 04, 2025, 05:01:28 PM
Sold $14,500 I don't even know what to say.......................I have more into my Mini-Pickup  :?

I know how you feel, after seeing that nebulous theorem for sale, with a trailer and spare engine, for less than what I have in my very unfinished minitruck... Oof