Here ya go, kiddos! SpeedWeek 2025's topic now exists.

[TrickyDicky]

Pork Pie mile 3 is the first timed mile. 2 miles to build speed then entering 3rd mile so 21/4 is 21/4 time of third mile
with 3/4 mile to go to 4th mile 2nd timed mile.

Also typo error of 349,640 should be 249.640

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[PorkPie]

 

[JAL AKA JL222]

Pork Pie.... Short course is 4 miles long, 2 miles to build up speed to start of mile 3, 1st timed mile and then to mile 4
2nd timed mile

       JL222

[WOODY@DDLLC]

cromag 

[SteveM]

Pork Pie.... Short course is 4 miles long, 2 miles to build up speed to start of mile 3, 1st timed mile and then to mile 4
2nd timed mile

       JL222

NO.  Short course starts at the Zero and ends at the Three.

[37 ROADSTER]

The long and short course both start timing at the 1mile. When you look  at the timing slip the first mile time is from the 1 to the 2.On the long course you can get 4 timed miles 1/4 time and terminal speed. On the short course you get 2 timed miles.

[desotoman]

Short course 8/3/25  Speed demon, 283 quarter 243 mile 1 249 mile 2  spin

jl222

The streamliner categorie needs no 2 1/4 175 mph qualifier for long course...it's on the team/driver if they go 3 - 4 - 5 mile....like a test run....

This was the third (and fatal) run for the SD 3...he run on course 1...which is actually the long course...

mostly...when they racer went only three miles...albeit the racer could run five miles...the run shows up on the short course timing list...

hope this explains....

The SCTA screwed up and posted the run on the short course results, when in fact the run in question was run on the long course.

So John you are going by information that was posted wrong by the SCTA/BNI. Pork Pie is only trying to correct what the SCTA got wrong. I hope this explains the misinformation that has transpired.

Also the short course is only 3 miles long, 1 mile to gain speed, first timing trap to time entire second mile, next timing trap timing the first quarter mile of the third mile, 2 1/4 mile, third timing trap timing entire mile 3.   That is what the rule book says.

Tom G.

[JAL AKA JL222]

Pork Pie.... Short course is 4 miles long, 2 miles to build up speed to start of mile 3, 1st timed mile and then to mile 4
2nd timed mile

       JL222

Pork Pie, your right short course is 3 miles long   [Live and learn] :-P

Also it gets confusing when 2 mile times  from start are listed on timing tags [not counted] and then after
entering the third mile shows tines for 1st 2nd 3miles + exit speed.   

  I think BNI may have posted runs made by a few teams on course 2 on the short course results as I don't think it would make sense for teams trying to set a high speed record on a short course.

And their listed times after a 1 mile build up would be outstanding.

  JL222

           

[zzcruzin]

WELL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,two things that i got out of all of this rambling commotion was,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

1. Pork pie is still my friend 

2. Now my hair hurts after reading all of this. 

Everybody have a good evening.

[Interested Observer]

Examining the front suspension photo (which was, I believe, in reply 105, before it disappeared) showed an arrangement that, if this is what was actually run, would offer a very spongy lateral stiffness.  This could easily result in a front end that, at speed, would be laterally unstable and prone wobble back and forth and not follow steering input with any clear fidelity.  A "spooky" steering response would be unsettling for the driver and may be why that run never went beyond the 240 mph region.

[desotoman]

Examining the front suspension photo (which was, I believe, in reply 105, before it disappeared) showed an arrangement that, if this is what was actually run, would offer a very spongy lateral stiffness.  This could easily result in a front end that, at speed, would be laterally unstable and prone wobble back and forth and not follow steering input with any clear fidelity.  A "spooky" steering response would be unsettling for the driver and may be why that run never went beyond the 240 mph region.

Interested Observer,

Thank you for the post.

Tom G.

[javajoe79]

I don't think it's fair to judge those pics too much as they are not final pics. You can tell that the work was not yet complete.

[JAL AKA JL222]

cromag 

  Well...that's the official timing slip, no questions there. But no spin listed?

  Why that time didn't show up on the results for course one?

  But showed up on short course with some of the times missing? With spin listed.

  SCTA/BNI needs to explain.

             JL222

[desotoman]

It would be interesting to see a video of the way the front suspension actually worked after it was finished. I wonder how much total travel the axle actually had, maybe 1" total?  Armchair inspector questions.

Tom G.

  It looks pretty simple to me, just a lower arm and an upper rocker that functions as the upper arm. Both sides look to be fixed together so they do not travel independently. Both sides use both coilovers. I think you're right on travel though, guessing on the rocker arm ratio it seems to be 1-2" of suspension travel.

I would expect a limiter/bump stop that would prevent it from burying the nose at speed or if a spring broke. Maybe that wasn't fabricated yet in those pics.

Javajoe79,

I understand the simplicity of the basic setup. I would just like to see how the axle reacts to full travel. Just curious that is all. 

Tom G. 

[racergeo]

  any thoughts on why the car count was so low this year?? Do folks that go out to prep give feed back to their friends and keep them away because the salt is suspect? I just seemed alarmingly small. Any theories?