Tech Inspection Question

ol38y · June 10, 2007, 04:54:16 PM

I'm reading the tech inspection checklist and under Frame, Suspension & Steering, 7.B.22 , it says. "Primary Drive Gear (counter shaft sprocket) must have side cover protection. Sooooo, do they mean the primary sprocket or the counter shaft sprocket. If they mean the counter shaft sprocket, how do you run the chain guard to the center of the counter shaft sprocket if it has a cover on it???

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ooops, I guess you've all figured out by now I am talking about M/C inspection...
Thanks all, Larry

JackD · June 10, 2007, 05:36:15 PM

The side cover rule pertains to HD and pre-unit engines that have an outside / exposed primary.

ol38y · June 10, 2007, 05:44:54 PM

Thanks Jack. I was hoping that was what they meant..

Dean Los Angeles · June 11, 2007, 03:03:42 PM

If the sprocket on the engine is exposed it has to have a side cover. So does the clutch. Any exposed rotating device would have to be covered. What works on your road racer may not pass tech here.

JackD · June 11, 2007, 04:33:05 PM

The funny part is the bottom run of the moving chain as it goes onto the rear wheel sprocket doesn't require the same protection.
With foot pegs allowed near in certain classes it seems odd.

ol38y · June 11, 2007, 05:12:27 PM

So then Dean, you are saying the counter shaft sprocket has to have a cover as well.

Dean Los Angeles · June 11, 2007, 05:28:57 PM

Yep, I took a new bike through motorcycle tech inspection Saturday and got dinged for it. Welded a cover on Saturday night and went back to tech Sunday morning. I got dinged for the perforations in the leathers too. Black silicone sealer!

Also got dinged for a stretch panel on the bottom of the legs, that is over the boots. My wife spent more than hour stitching them up. We went out Sunday and right away my wife yanks on me and with some anger points out a guy with the identical leathers that were not sewn.

ol38y · June 11, 2007, 05:59:08 PM

Thanks for the heads up. My leathers should be good as my old ones shrunk somehow. lol They wouldn't fit anymore. So I had to get new ones and went over that with Kelsey at NJK

landracing · June 11, 2007, 07:17:19 PM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on June 11, 2007, 05:28:57 PM
Yep, I took a new bike through motorcycle tech inspection Saturday and got dinged for it. Welded a cover on Saturday night and went back to tech Sunday morning. I got dinged for the perforations in the leathers too. Black silicone sealer!

Also got dinged for a stretch panel on the bottom of the legs, that is over the boots. My wife spent more than hour stitching them up. We went out Sunday and right away my wife yanks on me and with some anger points out a guy with the identical leathers that were not sewn.

And you wonder why the motorcycle guys bitch.... Inconsistency.

Jon

Carl Johansson · June 11, 2007, 07:35:28 PM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on June 11, 2007, 05:28:57 PM
Yep, I took a new bike through motorcycle tech inspection Saturday and got dinged for it. Welded a cover on Saturday night and went back to tech Sunday morning. I got dinged for the perforations in the leathers too. Black silicone sealer!

Also got dinged for a stretch panel on the bottom of the legs, that is over the boots. My wife spent more than hour stitching them up. We went out Sunday and right away my wife yanks on me and with some anger points out a guy with the identical leathers that were not sewn.

You call that a Bike? If it's the thing i am thinking of, it fit into the motorized lounge chair - right? Is that for guys to old to get their legs up and over a saddle?

Just kidding man - I didn't get a chance to inspect your ride - but it sure looked cool from a distance!
Carl Johansson

Nortonist 592 · June 11, 2007, 07:37:31 PM

Thats exactly the problem. Fish to one inspector. Fowl to another. What made me laugh was I had to take the bike off the trailer for inspection. It did'nt look any different off the trailer and inspection would have been easier with it on the trailer. Up off the ground , saves hunkering. I asked Russ why it had to be off the trailer. He said "Quit whining and unload it." I told him I wasn't whining, I was bitchin'!!!

jimmy six · June 11, 2007, 07:53:37 PM

Dean/Jon, until ONE person steps up and is the ONLY inspector you will see inconsistencies. Until the person who you feel did not have something you had to do gets inspected by the same person as you, it may continue that way. At least you now meet what was required. Perhaps that persons log book had the notation to have that fixed by the next event. Some car inspector do that allowing the competitor to run the meet.

I do not know much about the M/C rules, only Jack D knows everything, but I always go through an extra check off sheet with my own car pretending I've never seen it to make sure I've done everything as right as I can and legal in case of protests.

I have been protested many times and never lost a one. It is the owners responsibility to be able to prove what they have done is within the rules as they are written. I've got lots of factory drawings and brochures on both cars-can't be too careful.

Yes, inspectors have found things and asked me about them. The typical of this is 1" lug nuts. I don't need them and I'm following the rules to the letter. Good luck

JackD · June 11, 2007, 08:14:39 PM

I can spot a "STUPID" from quite a distance, that is for sure.

John Noonan · June 11, 2007, 10:37:51 PM

If it is so bad maybe one of you would offer to take over the role of a full time inspector.

Several times my bikes have passed with flying colors one event and the next time (with a different set of eyes) another inspector asks me or points out something he may have an issue with. They learn from each other and the "old dog" may know what is right or wrong and the newer inspectors may have to either ask the racer or a senior inspector if the vehicle or part is either safe or legal.

This event I "taught one inspector" something and also taught one board member a BLM rule. We all learn from this (myself included) and the goal is to have fun, go like stink, be safe and able to return another day for another pass

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I was verified after my record run by a different person this meet and yes it took longer than usual however he did an excellent job and I felt treated me with respect and was very courteous and I am so grateful for their time and efforts as most of them either do not ride at El Mirage/Bonneville however sit out there for more time than the racers and they do not even get to experience what us racers enjoy!

This also applies for the inspectors in the car side as we are also running a car this year and they (car inspectors) put in the same hours and with the amount of cars versus bike's see even more vehicles to inspect before and after a run so again they work their butt's off so please treat them with respect and I am sure they will do the same while inspecting and verifying your race vehicle.

John

PS, anyone that wants to be a full time unpaid inspector please post here or contact the head of motorcycle tech and automotive tech know as I am sure they would love to have more people.

John...

Nortonist 592 · June 11, 2007, 10:58:43 PM

I don't think getting rid of the inspectors and replacing them is the issue. Consistancy is at the heart of it. Why can one inspector pass a set of leathers and another fail the same set? I have always been treated respectfully by Tom and Russ. Yesterday my bike was inspected by Drew Pietsch. An inspector I had never met before. He was knowledgable, thorough, and courteous. I did tech at road races for almost 10 years and would love to do tech at El Mirage as soon as the racing lark wears thin.

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