Helmet question

[Egz]

In the SCTA rule book, it states no open face helmets.  Is a hybrid helmet okay since it doesn't have a visor?



Thanks

[RichFox]

You need one that closes. Otherwise the starter won't have anything much to do when he sends you off.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

I would hate to have one on where there is a fire in the car.

I say bad idea.

[salt27]

One time I thought I would speed things up a little by closing my visor ahead of time. The starter motioned for me to close it [ it was already close ] and would not start me until I made the motion like I was closing it. I did'nt try that again.
Don

[Egz]

Hmm, so if I go with that one, I'd have to fake closing the lens?

Yea.... its just really, really clean.

Thanks for the info.  I need to get a new one this weekend, and like to think forward to other venues.

[Stainless1]

You could be in it for 15 minutes ( suited up belted in 3 cars back, 5 minutes per run).  Really hot anyway, wearing head sock, and I have problems with visor steaming until the car gets moving, you might want a visor.

[Seldom Seen Slim]

EGZ:  Here's another way to see if it'd be allowed:  Does it say "SA2000" (or later) or "M2000" (or later) Snell rating on the inside liner?  If not -- nope, it won't be allowed.  If so -- maybe, up to the inspectors and the starter and meet officials if you press the issue when told no.  But without the Snell certification it won't pass.

[Egz]

Its definately will be SA2005.  Part of the reason is my M-rated that I currently own need to be upgraded for new club rules, and just trying to think of all the rules I will need to meet in the future for my helmet purchase.  I don't want to buy a new helmet, and then find out that it won't be accepted somewhere.  The rule in the book was just a little vague.

[GH]

This is a little off the subject,  but it is about helmets. When I go to Speed Week, I always leave my helmet in the race car. Well, in 04, I went to the World Finals and on the back-up run which as you know is early in the morning, I had left the helmet in the car as I had always done, the dang thing was cold and fogged over big time, took over a mile to clear up. Now I keep it in the camper overnight when we go in the fall. This is just one of the little things that you have to learn the hard way.

[salt27]

GH,
Good tip,thanks.
Don

[ol38y]

Rating wise the "SA" is OK for cars but not bikes. An "M" rated helmet is OK for cars and bikes. If you're buying online make sure the helmet is 2005 rated. They get rid of a lot of older certified helmets that way. 

Larry

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Larry, I'll reinforce that -- when you buy/order your helmet, specify on the order that if it isn't 2005 you may return it at their cost!  I ordered a helmet a year or two ago and had checked to see that they had the '05 rated ones -- and yes, they did, but they sent me an '00 one anyway. 

[Egz]

Ah, no worries there.  There is a nice store along my trip to the track, so I'll be getting it in person, so I will know that it fits correctly and will be a 2005.  Definately will not buy a 2000.  I was hoping I could wait it out a little longer for the 2010s; oh well.

[Dean Los Angeles]

From the Snell Memorial Foundation:

Where's the Snell label located?
    There are two forms of the Snell serialized label.  The most common is the adhesive label, but there is also a cloth type for the M, SA and RS standards. The adhesive label, or decal is usually affixed somewhere on the inside of the helmet.  If it is not readily visible, check underneath the flaps of the comfort padding. The cloth type labels a generally sewn onto the chin strap and folded over.  If a thorough search fails to turn up a decal then regardless of any claims or advertisements your helmet is not part of the Snell certification program and does not have the confidence of the Foundation.   

What are the differences between the SA, M and K standards?
    The SA standard was designed for competitive auto racing while M standard was for motorcycling and other motorsports. The K standard was released to accommodate helmets used in karting. There are three major differences between them:

       1. The SA standard requires flammability test while the M and K standards do not.
       2. The SA and K standards allow for a narrower visual field than M standard (Some SA and K certified helmets may not be street legal).
       3. The SA and K standards include a rollbar multi impact test while M standard does not.

[Sumner]

From the Snell Memorial Foundation:

Where's the Snell label located?
    There are two forms of the Snell serialized label.  The most common is the adhesive label, but there is also a cloth type for the M, SA and RS standards. The adhesive label, or decal is usually affixed somewhere on the inside of the helmet.  If it is not readily visible, check underneath the flaps of the comfort padding. The cloth type labels a generally sewn onto the chin strap and folded over.  If a thorough search fails to turn up a decal then regardless of any claims or advertisements your helmet is not part of the Snell certification program and does not have the confidence of the Foundation.   

What are the differences between the SA, M and K standards?
    The SA standard was designed for competitive auto racing while M standard was for motorcycling and other motorsports. The K standard was released to accommodate helmets used in karting. There are three major differences between them:

       1. The SA standard requires flammability test while the M and K standards do not.
       2. The SA and K standards allow for a narrower visual field than M standard (Some SA and K certified helmets may not be street legal).
       3. The SA and K standards include a rollbar multi impact test while M standard does not.

Strange that the M is ok for cars and bikes, but the SA only cars.  It would seem almost the other way around as it looks like the SA has to meet more requirements.  I guess I'm missing something here,

Sum