Modified Vintage Gas Engine In Motorcycle Streamliner?

Started by Calkins, March 01, 2009, 08:20:20 PM

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Calkins

Hi all!  I'm doing some research on a possible project, and I was wondering if anyone knew the answer.

I'm thinking about building a motorcycle streamliner with an old Triumph motor.  I see that there is no minimum or records for S-VG at all.  So, does that mean that it is not allowed, or that the last time that someone used this combination, it was with current parts?

:?
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
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Calkins

Well, I got an email back from Tom Evans.  He said that they are open classes, but they had thought about getting rid of them because no one  has tried to run them.

So, my idea was to run a belly tank type setup with the Tiger series of pre-unit engines.

Tiger 70 - 250cc Single
Tiger 80 - 350cc Single
Tiger 90 - 500cc Single
Tiger 100 - 500cc Twin
Tiger 110 - 650cc Twin

Maybe these unit singles too:

T15 Terrier - 150cc Single
T20 Tiger Cub - 200cc Single

Any thoughts?
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
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Dean Los Angeles

If are looking for a record to cherry pick, the streamliner class is an expensive way to do it.

Regardless of what engine you put in it, the cost of the required safety gear is pretty high.

If your goal is setting an open record with no horsepower, then consider the vintage blown class on a standard motorcycle.
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Calkins

I'm not worried about my safety equipment.  I'm a drag racer, so I already have a SFI 20 firesuit.  I'm all about the old Triumphs.  I'm always wanting/trying to build something different, so I think Bonneville is the right place for me.  I also have alot of fab people around me that can help with things.
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Seldom Seen Slim

Well, go ahead.  But it's more than a -20 suit.  You'll need a parachute.  You'll need skids/training wheels.  You'll need lots and lots of safety items that will take a lot of effort and cost.

Go ahead, though.  We enjoy seeing liners.
Jon E. Wennerberg
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Skandia, Michigan
(that's way up north)
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Calkins

Yea, I'm already trying to figure some of that out.  I looking at a five year or less plan, just to be truthful to the reality to it.  I started sketching out the body and chassis ideas.  I'll try to post some of my pictures to see if anyone has some ideas.  My dad works with John MacKichan, so I figured that I might be able to get some help from him, maybe.
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
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Stainless1

#6
Start reading here, it refers you back to another thread in the first post.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,5307.0.html

There are some design ideas on the superfast thread also. 

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4286.0.html

Good luck with the project.
Stainless
Red Hat 228.039, 2001, 65ci, Bockscar Lakester #1000 with a little N2O

Loose Goose-Terry#1

 :-D Double your expected costs, double your projected build time, enjoy your designing and drawing process as well as the fabrication stage. Then (and only then) you will tripple your fun on the salt  8-)

Like to see some pictures of your drawings.  :-)

Terry  :cheers:
If I had it all to do over again...I would!

Calkins

Quote from: Loose Goose-Terry#1 on March 06, 2009, 03:13:34 PM
:-D Double your expected costs, double your projected build time, enjoy your designing and drawing process as well as the fabrication stage. Then (and only then) you will tripple your fun on the salt  8-)

Like to see some pictures of your drawings.  :-)

Terry  :cheers:

Yea, I'll have to find a scanner to get some pics up.  Tom Evans told me that I'm good to going with those classes for this year.  Alot of good that'll do me!  Hopeful if I get this thing built, that will let me run those classes.  He said that SCTA had been thinking about deleting classes that have no interest.
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
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Calkins

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on March 02, 2009, 07:43:35 AM
If are looking for a record to cherry pick, the streamliner class is an expensive way to do it.

Regardless of what engine you put in it, the cost of the required safety gear is pretty high.

If your goal is setting an open record with no horsepower, then consider the vintage blown class on a standard motorcycle.

I have been throwing the idea around to build up the standard bike to get my motor program tuned in.  I just need to win the lotto!
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
Iowa to the Salt Flats--Bonneville or Bust  -  https://www.facebook.com/groups/bonneville

Calkins

Well, I just got an offer to do a four-wheel streamliner.  Now what do I do?
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
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Glen

Glen
Crew on Turbinator II

South West, Utah

Calkins

Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
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John Noonan

Quote from: Calkins on March 07, 2009, 12:15:47 PM
Well, I just got an offer to do a four-wheel streamliner.  Now what do I do?

Looks more like a three wheeled vehicle...

Calkins

Quote from: John Noonan on March 08, 2009, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: Calkins on March 07, 2009, 12:15:47 PM
Well, I just got an offer to do a four-wheel streamliner.  Now what do I do?

Looks more like a three wheeled vehicle...

It is, but I'd up scale to whole car and double up the rear wheels.  I'm thinking about going with the "K" engine class.  Use a 500cc single or twin motorcycle engine/tranny combo.
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
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