Motorcycle Building Tools

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Calkins

I figure that Mr. Buchta could answer this, but I thought I try a post to see what others are doing.  What are some necessary tools to scratch build a motorcycle for LSR (ie, frames)?  Also, what would be some economically price alternatives?
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
Iowa to the Salt Flats--Bonneville or Bust  -  https://www.facebook.com/groups/bonneville

John Noonan

Quote from: Calkins on May 22, 2009, 01:00:01 PM
I figure that Mr. Buchta could answer this, but I thought I try a post to see what others are doing.  What are some necessary tools to scratch build a motorcycle for LSR (ie, frames)?  Also, what would be some economically price alternatives?

Simple answer is that you will need the same tools to build a race car like in your Avatar however the jig table will be shorter. :cheers:

You could (depending on the type of bike) use a chassis that is already available and shoe-horn in the engine of choice..good luck either way.

Did you ever determine what engine you will run?

J

Calkins

Not yet, I'm still doing record and powertrain evaluations. :|

What is the compuss/angle finder tool for front end geometry called?
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
Iowa to the Salt Flats--Bonneville or Bust  -  https://www.facebook.com/groups/bonneville

slopoke

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Calkins

Is it that simple?  Well hell, I use that for drawing!  Thank you
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
Iowa to the Salt Flats--Bonneville or Bust  -  https://www.facebook.com/groups/bonneville

willieworld

Mr. Buchta was my dad but i will try to answer your question----first you need a plan -the more you can work out on paper the less mistakes and redoes you will have later on---part of your plan should be the research of the classes that you will run in---that part of the plan  should be realistic ( you cant run 200 mph with a 500cc pushrod motor in an open bike ) and part of the plan should be the cost of the build ---can you do all of the fabrication or just the assembly --if you plan on building a frame you will need a frame jig and a tig welder if you have to buy those things you could have had someone build it for you ---my wifes bike in the build diaries has a list of parts and money spent  (NO LABOR)    i build a lot of frames and they range from around 700 to around 2500 dollars --ive seen some on e-bay from time to time most are drag race frames not a bad place to start if you are on a budget ---noonan is right about the jig--get a plan-- see you on the salt  willie buchta

i have a new frame if you want to run a evo harley for 700 dollars
willie-dpombatmir-buchta

willieworld

here is the page for the costs for sheris bike    http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,3151.150.html 

                                  willie buchta
willie-dpombatmir-buchta

slopoke

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Glen

So slopoke what are you building???? haven't seen or heard anything except noise.  What do we know about you and your back ground in motor sports. Just wondering. :?
Glen
Crew on Turbinator II

South West, Utah

Calkins

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Quote from: Glen on May 22, 2009, 07:11:58 PM
So slopoke what are you building???? haven't seen or heard anything except noise.  What do we know about you and your back ground in motor sports. Just wondering. :?

slopoke and I are teammates.  Landspeed hovercraft (open record)!
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
Iowa to the Salt Flats--Bonneville or Bust  -  https://www.facebook.com/groups/bonneville

Calkins

Quote from: willieworld on May 22, 2009, 03:26:30 PM
Mr. Buchta was my dad but i will try to answer your question----first you need a plan -the more you can work out on paper the less mistakes and redoes you will have later on---part of your plan should be the research of the classes that you will run in---that part of the plan  should be realistic ( you cant run 200 mph with a 500cc pushrod motor in an open bike ) and part of the plan should be the cost of the build ---can you do all of the fabrication or just the assembly --if you plan on building a frame you will need a frame jig and a tig welder if you have to buy those things you could have had someone build it for you ---my wifes bike in the build diaries has a list of parts and money spent  (NO LABOR)    i build a lot of frames and they range from around 700 to around 2500 dollars --ive seen some on e-bay from time to time most are drag race frames not a bad place to start if you are on a budget ---noonan is right about the jig--get a plan-- see you on the salt  willie buchta

i have a new frame if you want to run a evo harley for 700 dollars

Since you said TIG, I would assume you use chrome moly?  I was leaning toward small cc 2-stroke, so CM would be better for weight.  Although, I was told before, weight is traction.  Would using mild steel be bad?  There is a really nice TIG and a good MIG at work.  A hydraulic tubing bender.  We have a nice 1/4" thick, 4'X4' steel jig table too.  There is a kid at work the is a 'certified' welder.  I would probably have him tack it up for me, then I would take it to my hot rod building buddy to finish.
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
Iowa to the Salt Flats--Bonneville or Bust  -  https://www.facebook.com/groups/bonneville

willieworld

i said tig but any kind of welding that you have the skill at would work---mild steel is your best bet--

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,3837.0.html     read this ----sounds like you have a good plan so far        willie buchta
willie-dpombatmir-buchta

Calkins

Thank you.  A guy come into work awhile back.  His family owns a body shop and the two boys used to build custom bikes on the side.  A V-Rod low rider, a couple of turbine (!!!) bikes, blah, blah, blah.  So I asked him if they still had the jigging around or if they sold it after they quit building bikes.  He said that they just had a flat table to work on.  Well, then I asked about stuff to setup the neck.  He said 'We just put it where it looked good'  I'm not sure why they quit making bikes, I think he said the market died.






Or maybe someone on one of there bikes did!
Justin Calkins - Iowa Falls, Iowa  USA
Iowa Land Speed Racing Group  -  https://www.facebook.com/IowaLandSpeed
Iowa to the Salt Flats--Bonneville or Bust  -  https://www.facebook.com/groups/bonneville

wolcottjl

Found this site in one in my bookmarks.  I tend to do a lot of internet surfing late at night.

http://www.mechwerks.com/Mechwerks_plans_drawings.htm
Joel Wolcott
Moving to 2 wheels in 2010

isiahstites

Quote from: wolcottjl on May 22, 2009, 10:51:46 PM
Found this site in one in my bookmarks.  I tend to do a lot of internet surfing late at night.

http://www.mechwerks.com/Mechwerks_plans_drawings.htm

Mechwerks is a member of another forum I go to and he is reliable and does excellent work.

Scott