Rules question #2

[bbb]

Page 106, 7.G.11, Partial streamlining:
Adds new rule

......If a streamlined seat or tail section is used, it cannot extend further to the rear than a maximum of 8? beyond the rear edge of the rear tire.... No part of the seat or tail section that extends beyond the rear axle may be lower than the top of the rim of the rear tire, with the rider seated on the bike.

When did they start allowing bikes tail sections to extend beyond the rear tire by any amount? I had only heard or thought (I know, it was painful) that the rear tire MUST extend beyond the rearward most portion of the tail or tail light section?

[1212FBGS]

this year! it is a new rule established by the petition by Joe Amo  

[bbb]

way to go Joe. woo hoo.
thanks.
what was the given logic to the board? kinda curious.
ok, a lot curious.
I think this could be the begining of some new concepts.

[joea]

hold your horses..............

MY rule proposal was skinned/skewed/bent/hacked/sabbotaged into
something much different....................

I proposed allowing rear seat or tail section to extend beyond the
rear edge of rear tire...........that allows visibility of rear wheel for 180 continuous degrees of its circumference................

this here twisted rule...........allows rear tail section to extend beyond
rear edge of wheel BUT ONLY IF IT STAYS ABOVE THE HEIGHT OF THE REAR TIRE.......................

hmm...........all that potential surface area............MANDATED to be that high
up on the bike..............

the current rule states that rear wheel must be visible for 180 degrees
of its circumference to the rear of a vertical line through the rear axle...........

many stock and non stock bikes have exhaust pipes that obscure such
a view...............

I was trying to get 180 of wheel exposed but allow for more innovative
and rule abiding allowances............
and allow even stock bike rears and fenders to not have to be hacked up to run modified classes..............now many stock rears go beyond the rear
edge of rear tire...........but they dont all stay ABOVE the height of the rear tire...................

I tried............

Joe

[1212FBGS]

Hey, at least ya got the height thing ](*,)

[joea]

the height thing may give a few some area to try to
blend things in better from the driver.............

and also allow stock tail sections to be used and not
cut up to run in modified classes..........

but I really dont want to run a 40 inch high tail section
that extends beyond the rear 8 inches and ALL ABOVE THE HEIGHT
OF THE REAR WHEEL.....................

I think they are trying to do the best they can............

We will keeep trying to do the best we can with the constraints we
are given...............

[bbb]

so they are including the swingarm and exhaust in the 180 degree measurement? nah, cant be?

[JackD]

It went past the concept stage long ago.
Some of the people refuse to believe it and want to try to disprove facts again.
It is the "Not invented here" deal that gives the most trouble.

[Larry Forstall]

For 2006 the M classes must use all stock bodywork (which on a Busa extends past the tire) so that eliminates the need to cut the tails as in the past. The A classes at 40" +8" have room for billboards, articulated cowboys and windmills if you so desire. Hey Joe did you give your Kwacker plenty of seasick pills for the long ocean voyage? Should be well rested for the March madness. Best of luck.     Larry

[JackD]

The styling evolution of the bikes that has in recent years extended the length of the body parts is not without very studied wind tunnel work.
You will notice they all go to a point and offer virtually no side area to be affected by the turbulence or cross winds generated in traffic at speeds much less than they would ever expect to be used in racing.
Violate those rules and you will suffer the result as opposed to enjoying the perceived benefit.
Stock stuff for the most part is pretty good and the rules need to follow them but be sure to understand their design limitations.

[landracing]

Larry,

Joe gave it the proper christening with a "golden shower" for the trip.... It likes that kind of stuff... We have the proper amount of yellow gatorade to make it go... And plenty of the Amo anti-galling compound in store for engine longevity...

We will make the two salt flats aqainted, traveling with Bonneville lock tight still in place to meet with the Australian salt...

Jon

[Glen]

Jon
It's called Rapid City Urineaide, and Wendover Loc-tite.

[JackD]

for Vitamin P