V4 Dodge

Started by RichFox, August 03, 2009, 09:07:11 AM

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RichFox

How soon they forget. Matrix Machine---V4F/BFS---201.700 with a turbo charged "T" block. Also Stewart Family and Creel turbo V4F lakester. These are two turbo charged Speciality bodied cars that come to mind.

Glen

The question was about the Vesco liner.
Glen
Crew on Turbinator II

South West, Utah

Seldom Seen Slim

Okay - and thanks, Glen.  At least I wasn't too far off -- they do have a vintage motor for the car even if they didn't run it this year.  Maybe what I heard was discussion about them running it.

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Glen

We ran the V4 two years ago and the flywheel didn't seat right on the crank shaft flange and buggered it up pretty bad. We are looking into metal spray or welding to fix. Haven't pulled it out of the block yet.

Next year plans are still being talked about including a blown motor (roots) type. Also looking for sponsors for the Turbinator.
Glen
Crew on Turbinator II

South West, Utah

Stan Back

The Vescos entered a V4/GS in 2009.  The motor is based on the A-B-C blocks.

At SpeedWeek 2010, Joel Young from Phoenix set the V4F/BFS record at 201 with a T-based motor.  Only 194", too.
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RichFox

Quote from: Glen on December 21, 2011, 01:07:26 PM
The question was about the Vesco liner.
The question was about a 'liner with a "T" block, turbocharged that ran over 200. See post just before SSS. At least the one I answered.

Glen

SSS, asked about the Vesco liner That's the one I replyed to.
Glen
Crew on Turbinator II

South West, Utah

turborick

Rich it looks shorter than the one you brought out to Elmo a few years back. how long is it?
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V4F STR 60

Quote from: RichFox on December 21, 2011, 02:08:22 PM
Quote from: Glen on December 21, 2011, 01:07:26 PM
The question was about the Vesco liner.
The question was about a 'liner with a "T" block, turbocharged that ran over 200. See post just before SSS. At least the one I answered.

Supercharged not turbocharged, correct?  No turbos in V4F.
Montana Dodge Boys Fast Four Special
1928 Dodge Brothers Vintage Flathead Four Cylinder Roadster & Lakester

Landspeed Records

Bonneville

2009 V4F/STR 115.681
2009 V4F/GR 116.439
2009 V4F/FR 117.597
2010 V4F/BSTR 127.352
2012 V4F/BFMR 130.843
2013 V4F/BGMR 142.956
2013 V4F/BFMR 143.254
2013 V4F/BGR 138.395
2013 V4F/BFR 138.984

El Mirage

2016 V4F/BGMR 140.961

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RichFox

No Turbos in Vintage bodies. Specialty construction ('Liners and Lakesters) are allowed turbos. I know it didn't seem that way a few years ago. Talk to Miler Mike and Roy Creel. Not me. Rick, the engine from bellhousing flange to injector pump pully is 31 or 32 inches. I cut some off the nose/motor mount to allow the use of a dampner. So I guess it's a little shorter than it was.

turborick

so it looks like it would fit in the liner......
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Tman

Quote from: turborick on December 21, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
so it looks like it would fit in the liner......


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zenndog

I am amazed how much chatter has been going on around here.

I am kind of shocked you even brought this up Rich.

V4F STR 60

Quote from: zenndog on December 20, 2011, 09:53:26 AM
I had come up with a list based on the 1 & 2/ 3 & 4 bore spacing of the Dodge block

Zenndog,
Any interest in sharing your list?
Pedro
Montana Dodge Boys Fast Four Special
1928 Dodge Brothers Vintage Flathead Four Cylinder Roadster & Lakester

Landspeed Records

Bonneville

2009 V4F/STR 115.681
2009 V4F/GR 116.439
2009 V4F/FR 117.597
2010 V4F/BSTR 127.352
2012 V4F/BFMR 130.843
2013 V4F/BGMR 142.956
2013 V4F/BFMR 143.254
2013 V4F/BGR 138.395
2013 V4F/BFR 138.984

El Mirage

2016 V4F/BGMR 140.961

www.facebook.com/MontanaDodgeBoys
www.fastfourspecial.com

zenndog

Sure, Rich pointed out that due to the order of the valves, some of these choices would require a custom cam. According to Rich, Pontiac and Lincoln would not. Oldsmobile and Pontiac have aftermarket aluminum heads available.

These are only classic engines, I didn't look into modern engines. The info is harder to come by on the web it seems. I wasn't thinking about the fact that there is .150 of bore offset allowed, so many modern SOHC or DOHC heads would work.

For some reason I thought that DOHC were not allowed but now I cannot find any reference to that in the rules.

Also if you cut a SOHC or DOHC head to fit over the bores, then the cam (or cams) need to be modified also.

Rich isn''t really interested in another OHV heads for the Dodge but who knows?

Enough rambling, here is the list.

These are engines that have the same bore spacing as the 1 & 2/ 3 & 4 clyinders on the dodge, followed by displacements that have 4" bore




Ford FE, 332, 352 (4"), 359-391 (4.050")

Lincoln Y block, 341(3.937"), 368 ( 4")

Olds Rocket, 371 ( 4")

Olds, 350 (4.057"), 400 (4" )

Pontiac 301 (4")

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