XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build

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fordboy628

Quote from: 38flattie on April 22, 2014, 09:53:09 AM
Quote from: Jack Gifford on April 18, 2014, 09:34:48 PM
What O-ring wire diameter? Block groove width and depth? Receiver groove width and depth?

Wire:  .041

Groove Width in Head:  .0395 (interference fit - very important of it won't stick!)

Groove Depth in Head:  .026

Protrusion:  about .015 proud (wire in the head)

Receiver Groove Width:  .055 to .060 (centered with the head groove)

Receiver Groove Depth:  .012 to .015


All these dimensions seem pretty normal for o-ring set-ups.    I suspect that the .085" (14 gauge? listed as .0863") thick copper conforms/deforms less than a 21 gauge sheet (.0320") or even an 18 gauge sheet (.0485")

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pops29

Quote from: Jack Gifford on April 22, 2014, 09:32:29 PM
Thanks. With those odd-shaped rings/grooves, I assume you did the grooves with a CNC program? With locations referenced to head dowels?


Yes I did -- I did both the dowels and the groves on the same setup


Jack Gifford

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It appears to me that the .080" gasket thickness defeated the intended function of the O-ring and receiver groove. Using your dimensions I sketched to scale a cross-section view. It looks as if the movement of the gasket into the receiver groove would be insignificant. The other scale-sketch is of the O-ring scheme in my blown alky hemi V8- where the receiver groove and the .024" gasket form a labyrinth-type seal.
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fordboy628

Quote from: Jack Gifford on May 05, 2014, 11:06:55 PM

It appears to me that the .080" gasket thickness defeated the intended function of the O-ring and receiver groove.


x2

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Fordboy
Science, NOT Magic . . . .

I used to be a people person.  But people changed that relationship.

"There is nothing permanent except change."    Heraclitus

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."     Albert Einstein

Roseville Carl

"Keep Em Between the Whites"

and yes Virginia the world is indeed Flat

38flattie

Thanks Carl, and good luck at Eagle field!

We're headed to El Mirage, to run on a 185 MPH minimum in XXO/BFCC
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

Elmo Rodge

When are you heading out, Buddy? Wayno

38flattie

Wayno, I fly into Sacramento tomorrow-I left the car, trailer, and truck out there. We'll be on the lake by 9 Friday morning.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

saltwheels262

good luck to you and all others going to em this weekend.
bub '07 - 140.293 a/pg   120" crate street mill  
bub '10 - 158.100  sweetooth gear
lta  7/11 -163.389  7/17/11; 3 run avg.-162.450
ohio -    - 185.076 w/#684      
lta 8/14  - 169.xxx. w/sw2           
'16 -- 0 runs ; 0 events

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                            - franey  8/2007

tauruck

Have a blast Buddy.

We're always pulling for you from this side.

Be safe. :cheers:

38flattie

Thanks guys! I'll post up results of our escapades next Monday or so!
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

Roseville Carl

Kool Buddy go gettum........ I will be thinking of you guys while running at Eagle, maybe next time you run down there I can make it!
"Keep Em Between the Whites"

and yes Virginia the world is indeed Flat

kustombrad

Saw the beast yesterday and I must say, what a cool car! Hearing the weight of the motor cracked me up (freakin' heavy!) and the difference from Ford to Caddy flathead was pretty cool! While I was standing there talking to (I believe Bored and Stroked) about pushing out head gaskets and other weird issues, I asked what size head studs he was running. I know guys who have run fuel in BBC motors and stepped up from the 1/2" studs for more clamping force, so I can't see how this motor can hold anything from moving around with 7/16" studs! The car is awesome and I love the concept, but if there's room I'd stuff 1/2" studs in there at the very LEAST! Just my opinion guys... see you on the salt!

38flattie

Quote from: kustombrad on May 18, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Saw the beast yesterday and I must say, what a cool car! Hearing the weight of the motor cracked me up (freakin' heavy!) and the difference from Ford to Caddy flathead was pretty cool! While I was standing there talking to (I believe Bored and Stroked) about pushing out head gaskets and other weird issues, I asked what size head studs he was running. I know guys who have run fuel in BBC motors and stepped up from the 1/2" studs for more clamping force, so I can't see how this motor can hold anything from moving around with 7/16" studs! The car is awesome and I love the concept, but if there's room I'd stuff 1/2" studs in there at the very LEAST! Just my opinion guys... see you on the salt!

I think you are probably right, but it is too late for us to change this year-it is on the winter 'to do' list though.

For Bonneville, we'll have deeper head chambers, so we'll run a .035" thick head gasket, instead of the current .085" gasket-hopefully the O-rings will work better with the thinner gaskets.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

38flattie

We've been busy modifying the exhaust
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c