"E" Gas Coupe Build

maguromic · June 01, 2011, 03:15:27 PM

I have been shanghaied into helping my neighbor and good friend since grade school build a gas coupe. Originally he wanted build it out of 2001 Camaro that he had with a blown motor, but soon cooler heads prevailed and now he is going to build it out of a Craigs List special 1991 Firebird. The car will initially run in "E" gas coupe and will be powered by a Chevy IRL engine he bought from me. I will be helping him, as time permits in-between the roadster build and work, so be patient on the updates. The good thing is I only have to walk next door to help on the car. Tony

Pre-Disassembly

Interior half pulled, it is remarkably clean for a 20 year old car.

The "E" IRL engine

fredvance · June 01, 2011, 03:54:28 PM

Nice motor!!

Cajun Kid · June 01, 2011, 05:49:25 PM

Tony very cool motor..

What is the cubic inch and horse power and max RPM ?

Thanks

Charles

maguromic · June 01, 2011, 08:31:27 PM

Charles, Its a 3.5L, and on gas makes 650 hp and 720 on methanol. We were limited by RPM on the Indy cars to 10,500, but we can wind it up to 12,000-13,000 without any issues and make some more power. This is a link to the sister engine to this one that's in a hill climb car in Germany and runs on gas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiTUrnRaZt8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MdolPd0WxA&feature=related The guy is an engineer for Audi and did all the dyno testing on gas and worked all the bugs out and is nice enough to share the maps with us. Tony

Tman · June 01, 2011, 09:13:10 PM

WOW, Crazy videos!

maguromic · August 17, 2011, 08:34:21 PM

Came back from Speed Week and found this huge box in front of the shop with the new rear deck lid for my neighbors Firebird. I was lucky to find him the old Riley-Protofab part as it should add stability to the lexan rear window and keep it from deforming at speed. Tony

Jorge · August 17, 2011, 09:46:08 PM

Cant wait to see this car take shape, the 01 camaro you talked about was it "Red"?

interested bystander · August 17, 2011, 09:59:15 PM

Teaman, yrs truly's 'thinkin there's a whole world of possibilities for soon to be and previous obsolete IRL/Indycar motors for E and F classes.

Kinda like the surplus NASCAR motors that are vitually a requirement in C Gas anything .

If ya shop around they are probly just as cheap!

Neat thing is, the Indy engines are traditional "PUREBRED" racemotors, but, on second thought. dollar for dollar I'm expectin' the NASCAR stuff to be comarable, adding in all the engineering/r&d hours, etc, costwise!

maguromic · August 17, 2011, 10:10:22 PM

IB, Both the IRL and Nascar used motors are the best bang for the buck. You just cant build them for what you can buy one for, like you said the R&D on them is astronomical. I remember when Van Dyne had the Barbee boys ex Nascar engine on the dyno and couldn't believe the numbers that he was getting. The little IRL motors are monsters and if you force the air can get 1200-1300hp before they come apart. If any one wants I have some ex Eddie Cheever IRL motors cheap. Tony

maguromic · August 17, 2011, 10:11:07 PM

Quote from: Jorge on August 17, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
Cant wait to see this car take shape, the 01 camaro you talked about was it "Red"?

Yep, it is red. Tony

interested bystander · August 17, 2011, 10:17:16 PM

Methinks you mean RPM, not HP!

Regards, IB

maguromic · August 17, 2011, 10:20:06 PM

I stand corrected its actually about 1100-1200 HP with turbos. They can handle about 30lbs of boost before the blocks blow apart. Tony

Jorge · August 17, 2011, 10:45:10 PM

What did he do with the car?

maguromic · August 18, 2011, 11:50:56 AM

He got rid of it on Craigs List, but don't know where it went. Tony

Jorge · August 18, 2011, 01:51:27 PM

Quote from: maguromic on August 18, 2011, 11:50:56 AM
He got rid of it on Craigs List, but don't know where it went. Tony

Thanks, I thought he still had it a friend of mine is looking for that style of camaro.

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