XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build

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dw230

#495
July 26, 2011, 09:16:59 AM
What do you mean by air deflector? In Gas Coupe class you run with either fenders or not.

DW
White Goose Bar - Where LSR is a lifestyle
Alcohol - because no good story starts with a salad.

Don't be Karen, be Beth

Rex Schimmer

#496
July 26, 2011, 09:48:11 AM
Buddy,
You have so much to complete just to get to the Salt I can't imagine that you need to add to the list regarding better aero on the front.

But since you asked: I would move the shocks inboard, cut off those ugly front frame horns and add a nice panel to cover that area and I would take off the front brakes and add some no-rotating Moon disc to the inside of the wheels. Also look at a very narrow and small front tire.

Rex
Rex

Not much matters and the rest doesn't matter at all.

38flattie

#497
July 26, 2011, 10:00:06 AM
Dan, Rex's answer is some of the info I was looking for. I'm looking for something to 'deflect' some of the drag on the front end- maybe something similar to the IRL cars, or maybe a partial front fender.

Rex, should the panel deflect just over the shock area, or over part of the front tire as well? We don't have time for this stuff at the moment- I'm making a list of all the things I want to change when time permits.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

dw230

#498
July 26, 2011, 10:34:46 AM
Reread your rulebook and check with your committee chair. In /VGC classes you cannot add any aero to the front. Do all of Rex's suggestions with the exception of the panel.

DW
White Goose Bar - Where LSR is a lifestyle
Alcohol - because no good story starts with a salad.

Don't be Karen, be Beth

38flattie

#499
July 26, 2011, 10:39:25 AM Last Edit: July 26, 2011, 10:41:43 AM by 38flattie
Thanks Dan, but we switched to /BVGCC months ago! :wink:

Edit: Hmmm, does your statement apply to /BVGCC?
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

Rex Schimmer

#500
July 26, 2011, 02:36:46 PM
 Buddy,
Being that you are going to run BVCC and the rules allow streamlining in front of the cowl,and also a belly pan I would think that you could easily incorporate panels to cover the holes that cutting off the frame rails would leave. Again I would suggest moving the shocks inboard of the body just to get them out of the air stream. I think that you will find the front will like pretty stiff springs and having the shocks inboard will not have any affect on the straight line stability. As the rules for  BVCC state that streamlining in front of the cowl per section 4CC is acceptable I would look at making the front axle aero and even making aero "spats" for the front tires, if you really want to go all out. Again it is making a silk purse out of a sows ear, which you know your are already doing, but every thing helps.

Rex
Rex

Not much matters and the rest doesn't matter at all.

dw230

#501
July 26, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
Just going by the threa dtitle.

/VGCC - I don't care about the nose from the cowl forward.

DW
White Goose Bar - Where LSR is a lifestyle
Alcohol - because no good story starts with a salad.

Don't be Karen, be Beth

38flattie

#502
July 28, 2011, 03:07:15 PM


Well, I've dreaded writing this, but I must.

The FlatCad will not attend Speedweek.

I apologize to all our sponsors, and everyone that worked so hard, and went way beyond themselves on this build. When we first decided to undertake this build, Pete told me we needed 4 more months for a build of this magnitude. I laughed, and said "don't worry!"

If anyone is to blame, it's me- guess I shouldn't have been so confident on such an ambitious build.I should have listened to experience, and planned accordingly.

We have agonized over this decision, and had many discussions on what we could do to salvalge it. Here is the plan.

The work will continue on the FlatCad, with the goal being WOS.

Pete has graciously offered the use of his 350, from his hotrod. I'm working on trying to get it from Elbe, Wa., to Columbus, OH., at the moment. If anyone is going this way, please holler at us!

We'll drop the SBC in the car, and head to Bonneville. We'll be able to get the car teched,shake the car down, and make our licensing runs. If everything works out, we'll be back with the FlatCad for WOS.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

Milwaukee Midget

#503
July 28, 2011, 05:01:13 PM Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 05:03:07 PM by Milwaukee Midget
Buddy, I feel the pain.  

You've busted your collective keisters getting it to this point. My heart goes out to you.

I find myself in a similar situation, waiting on a crank that was supposed to be here by early spring, and watching the time evaporate like water on the salt.

The upside is that the car is essentially complete, which will give you time to look things over, make adjustments, and perfect what is truly one of the coolest looking '30's Chevy's I've ever seen.

It'll happen - and we'll see you on the salt.

Patience - not only is this the fastest sport in the world, in many ways, it's also the slowest.

Chris
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

38flattie

#504
July 28, 2011, 05:28:42 PM
Thanks for the kind words Chris!

While we are disappointed in not having the FlatCad ready to run, we are relieved to have the extra time to assemble and test the engine properly.

We'll go with the SBC, have some fun, learn some things, and then go to WOS to try and take care of business.

At the end of the day, it's not a life shattering deal-just a bump in the road.



I sure hope your crank shows up- otherwise you might have to take a lap in the '38 and drink beer with us! :cheers:

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

Jorge

#505
July 28, 2011, 07:56:13 PM
Nice build! Sometimes its better to take a step back and do things the right way than to rush it and make mistakes. Ive never been a chevy guy, fords have ran in my family since the 50's, but i sure do like yours and im not talking out of my a$$ either. Good job and good luck.
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy $hit, what a ride!"

Milwaukee Midget

#506
July 28, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
Quote from: 38flattie on July 28, 2011, 05:28:42 PM

I sure hope your crank shows up- otherwise you might have to take a lap in the '38 and drink beer with us! :cheers:


The only Chevy I'd ever admit to driving - except for my old Corvair (RIP).

You fly - I'll buy.  :cheers:
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

Drewfus

#507
July 29, 2011, 02:17:40 AM
no, disagree, there's nothing wrong with aiming high, I don't know of anyone who has done big things who didn't aim big.

despite the emotional attachment, I think you've made a good call, and one that will allow you to 'hit the ground running' as such, giving you a chance to offer the best chance at success.

Hard decision, but props for doing so, some days you have to improvise, this is one of those days.

Cheers, Drewfus

"Build it small, Drive it BIG"

gearheadeh

#508
July 29, 2011, 04:57:20 AM
Quote from: 38flattie on July 28, 2011, 03:07:15 PM


Well, I've dreaded writing this, but I must.

Here is the plan.

The work will continue on the FlatCad, with the goal being WOS.

Pete has graciously offered the use of his 350, from his hotrod. I'm working on trying to get it from Elbe, Wa., to Columbus, OH., at the moment. If anyone is going this way, please holler at us!

We'll drop the SBC in the car, and head to Bonneville. We'll be able to get the car teched,shake the car down, and make our licensing runs. If everything works out, we'll be back with the FlatCad for WOS.

Man I couldn't agree more with what a great compromise this is. You will have a much better time knowing that the bullet in the chamber is not made of such rare unobtainium as the Flat Cad!
40 is the old age of Youth, 50 is the young age of the Senior years.

38flattie

#509
July 30, 2011, 06:19:00 AM
Guys, Thanks for all the support!



We built the car for a blown class over 175 mph. We will now be running in C/GCC, I think.

The only thing I've found we are not in compliance with is the fire system. I've contacted DJ Safety, and we'll take care of that.

Does anyone know if I've missed something?

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c
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